Exactly. Let's compare CBB10 and CBB11. I know CBB10 was in the summer and would have less viewers, but they had a much better overall cast than CBB11. Also look at the final week of CBB11, apart from Speidi and the Rylan row, there was NOTHING going on, however, the week increased in ratings and the final was the highest rated final of any BB series on Channel 5 despite the obvious winner.

Even if you can't compare the summer with the winter, lets compare CBB9 and CBB11 which were both on in the winter... CBB9 was a better series, better HMs, better finalists and often regarded a classic, but CBB11 still beat it.

I think what this means is that you can't really observe quality with ratings any more. You could have an incredible series that could rate low, or a poor one which happens to rate highly. I don't really know what happens to the ratings sometimes. It's a little unexpected. God knows what we are looking at this year, an average of under 2m or an average of over 3m. You just never know.

He's a bit of a twat and suffers from foot in mouth.

I think he'll be a good hm.

But would he be like that on the show? Controversial people tend to be boring once they go in the House.

I agree you need the right characters. That's why i think Paul O Grady would be great. He's hilarious. :hugesmile:

Yeah but we all thought that about Julian Clary and lets be honest he was a massive let down.

True, but i think Paul would be different. He's just naturally very funny.

I think Paul would be different, because outside of his humour he can be quite moody and bitchy so he would have a fiery side too.

But hes poorly :( I don't think hes fit and healthy enough to be a housemate.

We need someone who can get involved and he has been hospitalised again recently.

Don't get me wrong though I would like to see him go in.....As Lily Savage haha.

Can you imagne you expect Paul.....Eye opens and out walks Lily.

Front page news guaranteed.

Yeah, i hope he's well enough to go it. If not, Katie Price would do for me. She's very opinionated and would cause arguments.

Yes! I'd love to see that on the show!

Possibly. He's pretty stupid as well.

Brilliant! Could be great, then! :amazed:

Who is he by the way

Out of blue I see

Lee Ryan was meant to go on a few years ago but he demanded more money, didn't get it, therefore he didn't go in.

Sounds like he is less desperate to get more money and more desperate to get into the house. Recently the BB house is turning into a refuge for broke and desperate once upon a timers, that want a second, or in Ryans case, a third chance after blowing his well earned.

But hes turned them down again due to them not offering enough cash.

Nothings changed lol.

Nice to hear you say his wealth was well earned though :)

Well earned pertains to wages where I come from, its a euphemism, not a descriptive statement. Stop twisting my posts, in fact it would be better you just leave my posts alone as there is always a hint of sarcasm in them towards me. You might think you are being funny and cool, I think you are baiting me so lets just ignore each other unless absolutely necessary.

Well you are twice my age and slightly doolally so I agree.

Doolally is an insult. Was that really necessary. I stopped insulting you after I was reported and banned, why are you baiting me again. Wouldn't it be better if you just ignored me and we will get along fine, no need for insults or smart ass comments.

So you admit you were insulting me?

Aww was you banned? :(

That's what you get from calling someone an attention seeker and up their own arse plus insinuate they only reason they like a person is through their sexuality.

I don't bait, I respond.

You rant and I reply.

When did I ever make reference to your sexuality, please provide proof.

I wouldnt be too interested to see Lee Ryan in the house.

The mods deleted it because they found it offensive and am I right that you received an infraction or ban or something afterwards?

I posted a video of Lee Ryan and you said "Well I could see why you would like him" and the rest of the post was very very suggestive.

I asked what you meant, you avoided the question.

The rest is just......