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sampvt 05-01-2014 09:46 AM

Are we all missing the point here. If Lionel had have popped up and said yeah I love a finger up my bum, what grief would he be getting now. He would be tarred and feathered as a pervert. It seems to be ok to act like a dick and use profanities and crude behaviour if you are young and cool, but when you are old, that cool act becomes perverted. A true sign of our ever decreasing dumb down society values.

She was drunk and a bit OTT and Lionel was a tad too prim and proper but neither where that badly on the wrong side of the track that they need pilloring, especially when we are expected to see such behaviour on a show driven by a group of under achievers called production. Give a group a load of alcohol and obviously one is going to kick off, job done, move on now to a useless task and more drink or acts of social depravity.

Guys its Big \brother, suck it up and stop being such killjoys. God if I can understand and forgive it, everyone should be able to.

*mazedsalv** 05-01-2014 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6588351)
Was any of that however in the very first few hours of being in the house?

In the first week anyway for BB5/BB6. Not too sure about BB1.

The show's original demo was for adults, people in the 20s above. Since 2000 there has always been a strong language, adult themes and nudity warned before the programme. People that get offended by words need to calm down.

I don't disagree that Jasmine shouldn't have said it in front of Lionel, but she was a little drunk, so didn't notice. It's fine saying what she did away from an 80+ year old, but with him there, it was awkward.

arista 05-01-2014 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by swinearefine (Post 6588185)
What's wrong with anal fingering? :suspect:



Nothing
but not with a 82 year old

MeMyselfAndI 05-01-2014 11:01 AM

Lionel knew what he was signing up for. Next time no old people should be picked if it means everyone has too change & watch their actions and become boring just for one person that adds nothing too the show

Jemal 05-01-2014 11:12 AM

Bloody, the over exaggerattion..
Since hes 82 years of age, why isnt he mature enough to handle a conversation about a sexual act?
Is a bloody 6 year old kid? Is he a toddler to not be hearing "BAD WORDS"
Get a flipping grip people. Your acting like the man is due to die if he hears about anal fingering. Its hilarious.

People are also acting like she wasnt intoxicated which would obviously have an effect on her?
She isnt a disrespectful woman when sober? We have seen shes a lovely girl onfirst impressions. Its not like she didnt welcome anyone or didnt talk to anyone or straight away abused the 82 year old man? She has been nice.
And now she is just being stereotyped for just having drinks to have a good time?
Not like she celebrated new years anyway, at least she done it in style here:).

jet 05-01-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6588323)
I am more with you.
Okay Jasmine was drunk I accept that, also in Charlottes case she went on and on with her rather unnecessary and toilet comments when fully sober, although counter balancing that, Charlotte tended to be more careful when around Ron Atkinson thereby showing a little respect.

I certainly,even now at 21,would think as to what I was saying if I was in the company of people much older than myself and would not encourage topics from others that could offend or make someone feel uncomfortable.
Also, this was in effect the first night too, they had only been there a few hours so she showed little respect for anyone really.

It is all well and good to say she was drunk and make that an excuse for what is disrespectful unnecessary behaviour but no one else put themselves in that position.

Lionel, perhaps should have just got up almost immediately and moved elsewhere and more than likely had he not been handcuffed to Ollie he would have done.
That is another element to Jasmine perhaps needing to curb her tongue a little, they are handcuffed to each other and one person cannot just walk away without the others agreement.

I do agree with you that an 82 year old should be shown some respect when in company unless they demonstrate any action not to be given respect.
Really there was no reason in such company for Jasmine to raise the topic at all especially when Lionel was present.
Drunk or not, that was her doing and her fault. I actually admired that Lionel in the end said nothing really and simply walked away from it, after securing Ollie's permission to go with him too.

Very well said Joey. :xyxwave:

Kizzy 05-01-2014 11:54 AM

Lionel according to him hung around with Sammy Davis Jr, he's an 82yr old showbiz man of the world.... this faux offence is a bit silly, and as false as jasmines initial convo. They all have to do something to get noticed for in the initial stages, she's playing 'trashy girl' and he's playing 'nice old man' imo.

Jordan. 05-01-2014 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 6588353)
Are we all missing the point here. If Lionel had have popped up and said yeah I love a finger up my bum, what grief would he be getting now. He would be tarred and feathered as a pervert. It seems to be ok to act like a dick and use profanities and crude behaviour if you are young and cool, but when you are old, that cool act becomes perverted. A true sign of our ever decreasing dumb down society values.

She was drunk and a bit OTT and Lionel was a tad too prim and proper but neither where that badly on the wrong side of the track that they need pilloring, especially when we are expected to see such behaviour on a show driven by a group of under achievers called production. Give a group a load of alcohol and obviously one is going to kick off, job done, move on now to a useless task and more drink or acts of social depravity.

Guys its Big \brother, suck it up and stop being such killjoys. God if I can understand and forgive it, everyone should be able to.

nnn so true

daniel-lewis-1985 05-01-2014 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 6588323)
I am more with you.
Okay Jasmine was drunk I accept that, also in Charlottes case she went on and on with her rather unnecessary and toilet comments when fully sober, although counter balancing that, Charlotte tended to be more careful when around Ron Atkinson thereby showing a little respect.

I certainly,even now at 21,would think as to what I was saying if I was in the company of people much older than myself and would not encourage topics from others that could offend or make someone feel uncomfortable.
Also, this was in effect the first night too, they had only been there a few hours so she showed little respect for anyone really.

It is all well and good to say she was drunk and make that an excuse for what is disrespectful unnecessary behaviour but no one else put themselves in that position.

Lionel, perhaps should have just got up almost immediately and moved elsewhere and more than likely had he not been handcuffed to Ollie he would have done.
That is another element to Jasmine perhaps needing to curb her tongue a little, they are handcuffed to each other and one person cannot just walk away without the others agreement.

I do agree with you that an 82 year old should be shown some respect when in company unless they demonstrate any action not to be given respect.
Really there was no reason in such company for Jasmine to raise the topic at all especially when Lionel was present.
Drunk or not, that was her doing and her fault. I actually admired that Lionel in the end said nothing really and simply walked away from it, after securing Ollie's permission to go with him too.

Age is nothing but a number. Just because you wouldn't do it doesn't mean we should all act the same.

Its Big Brother fgs not a retirement home.

Pete. 05-01-2014 03:24 PM

Aww dear how vulgar

Lwize 05-01-2014 03:33 PM

Meh. None of this is shocking.

Want a clean and respectful BB show? Remove the alcohol.

daniel-lewis-1985 05-01-2014 03:48 PM

Ive heard theres some lovely documentaries on BBC2.

Jemal 05-01-2014 03:49 PM

Its like people are acting hes a little child who isnt allowed to listen to sexual things lolol.

Black Dagger 05-01-2014 03:50 PM

Nowt wrong with a bit of anal fingering, I'd highly recommend it.

lostalex 05-01-2014 04:37 PM

Lionel's probably just bitter because his dick doesn't doesn't work any more.

Pete. 05-01-2014 04:42 PM

Big Brother is a social experiment to reflect the topics and the attitudes of the outside world. People talk about sex it's not uncommon and people get drunk and piss themselves it's fine

daniel-lewis-1985 05-01-2014 04:44 PM

I shat myself once and told that story at parties lol im sorry but if you're having a laugh and that's your personality you shouldn't have to hide it.

Glad shes being herself and not holding back.

arista 05-01-2014 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Dagger (Post 6588761)
Nowt wrong with a bit of anal fingering, I'd highly recommend it.


you would

arista 05-01-2014 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6588440)
Lionel according to him hung around with Sammy Davis Jr, he's an 82yr old showbiz man of the world.... this faux offence is a bit silly, and as false as jasmines initial convo. They all have to do something to get noticed for in the initial stages, she's playing 'trashy girl' and he's playing 'nice old man' imo.


yes a 82 year old legend


And a Trash Rock girl

Lostie! 05-01-2014 05:36 PM

Where has this fantasy that BB used to be some high-brow, classy show come from?

I do agree that the housemates who go on about things like this are dire, but they're not really new to BB.

rionablue 06-01-2014 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 6588197)
Yep, that's the problem right there. Some members of the Great British public think there is nothing AT ALL amiss when a young girl talks about anal fingering in the company of an 82 year old man who is most probably a grand - dad and who should be respected BECAUSE he is 82.
Whatever happened to respect for our elders - unless they prove completely unworthy of it?
I'm far from a prude, but young girls that talk like Jasmine and that bed peeing girl just turn me right off.
I'm a good bit younger that Lionel, but I understand his distaste.

In all fairness Jet Lionel shouldn't even be in there and I don't now for the life of me why he agreed to do it even if he was offered a good bit of money. He is years older than anyone else and there is a good percentage of young 'hip' people who can be crude and maybe a bit rude but they will get drunk and say stupid things, everyone does at some stage of their life. Jasmine was completely hammered and if she wasn't I am sure she wouldn't even have mentioned it and definitely not in front of Lionel. Im disappointed Lionel and even Jim are in the house because they will bring NOTHING to the show in my opinion. I don't mind older people being in the house but for Gods sake they should have some kind of PERSONALITY

chuff me dizzy 06-01-2014 11:16 AM

I think CBB has sunk to new depths this year with the choice of some of the housemates ,we have Jasmine talking filth within a couple of hours of going in the house ,we have Dappy perving like a bitch on heat ,NOT entertaining,Luissas VT was verging on soft porn before she even got in the doors

chuff me dizzy 06-01-2014 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rionablue (Post 6590933)
In all fairness Jet Lionel shouldn't even be in there and I don't now for the life of me why he agreed to do it even if he was offered a good bit of money. He is years older than anyone else and there is a good percentage of young 'hip' people who can be crude and maybe a bit rude but they will get drunk and say stupid things, everyone does at some stage of their life. Jasmine was completely hammered and if she wasn't I am sure she wouldn't even have mentioned it and definitely not in front of Lionel. Im disappointed Lionel and even Jim are in the house because they will bring NOTHING to the show in my opinion. I don't mind older people being in the house but for Gods sake they should have some kind of PERSONALITY

Why shouldnt Lionel be in there ?

Niamh. 06-01-2014 11:20 AM

The only thing that bothered me about Lionals reaction to Jasmins comments was that he was extremely sexist because he made it about her being female, like if one of the guys had said it it would have been fine

arista 06-01-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6591564)
Why shouldnt Lionel be in there ?


Yes having 82 year old
that Smokes


Is amazing


Gives the show Balance


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