Originally Posted by InOne (Post 6654606)

The way it's dragged on in the house I find it hard to care about Jim and Linda's spats. Linda clearly is the one that won't let it rest though. You can tell the other HM's are bored ****less with it too

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6654815)

..I think that the thing with Jim and Linda is that they both do probably hate each other and what Linda 'displays' is probably not that much different to what Jim feels...I personally don't think either of them are very nice people as such and the 'rights and wrongs' in most of this series are all very debateable, which is what we've been doing lol...but just taking their behaviour and character in the house and nothing more, for me it's been how each of them have coped and responded to the dislike of the other one...

..I have no doubts in my mind that Jim's remarks which are very passive aggressive have provoked reactions in Linda and those reactions have been extreme and quite hateful...whereas, there is nothing passive about Linda at all, she has been openly hostile with her feelings and although the Frank Carson thing was wrong and extremely wrong, other than that and on the whole, Jim has responded and reacted very well to Linda's hostility...so when it comes to those two and who is right and who is wrong in all of these arguments, all I can say is that they have both 'fought their personal battle' in their own ways, but for me, Jim's way has been much less spiteful and bitter....and more admirable tbh...with Linda, there is virtually nothing that I can admire at all, other than she's probably not had an easy life, but the same can be said of many people but she's coped with it all really badly in the person it has made her....

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6654587)

I think its well documented what happened

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 6654598)

Not a fact then at all is it if it's only your opinion :idc:

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 6654815)

..I think that the thing with Jim and Linda is that they both do probably hate each other and what Linda 'displays' is probably not that much different to what Jim feels...I personally don't think either of them are very nice people as such and the 'rights and wrongs' in most of this series are all very debateable, which is what we've been doing lol...but just taking their behaviour and character in the house and nothing more, for me it's been how each of them have coped and responded to the dislike of the other one...

..I have no doubts in my mind that Jim's remarks which are very passive aggressive have provoked reactions in Linda and those reactions have been extreme and quite hateful...whereas, there is nothing passive about Linda at all, she has been openly hostile with her feelings and although the Frank Carson thing was wrong and extremely wrong, other than that and on the whole, Jim has responded and reacted very well to Linda's hostility...so when it comes to those two and who is right and who is wrong in all of these arguments, all I can say is that they have both 'fought their personal battle' in their own ways, but for me, Jim's way has been much less spiteful and bitter....and more admirable tbh...with Linda, there is virtually nothing that I can admire at all, other than she's probably not had an easy life, but the same can be said of many people but she's coped with it all really badly in the person it has made her....

Originally Posted by rionablue (Post 6655147)

But you do believe everything you read in the papers Kazanne :conf:

Originally Posted by Suze (Post 6654980)

To me it seems like Linda has instigated this Jim feud from the start of this CBB. I must make it clear I am not a Jim fan but in this BB he is a massive part of it, way more than Linda and she and the others know that.

Going back to the Launch night, Linda was chained to Jim, now she had the chance to be unchained from him if she detested him that much, but no, Linda taking the lead over Jim and decides to unchain Dappy and Liz because 'she' thought they looked strained together even though both were ok to be chained together, Liz even in her interview said she was ok with Dappy, so it begs the question as to why did Linda not unchain herself and Jim when she had the choice? Probably because appealing to the viewing public meant more to her, so she must have had a game plan in mind from the offset to belittle Jim and try to get the viewing public and the housemates on her side to oust Jim from the house. Now nothing wrong with a game plan, but a down and dirty one like that is a bit low, as we are supposed to be judging housemates from their entertainment value in that house, not past misdemeanors of which some might feel bad enough about already. In fact Linda didn't even have to sign up to the show if she detests Jim so much, because no-one but no-one can tell me the Celebs, and I use the word Celeb lightly for some in that house, did not know who else was going in.

I think Linda knew and hoped if she pushed enough that Jim might bring that day in question up and then played on it. She has tried to push Jim's buttons and ruin his CBB experience and it isn't working for the most part.