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the truth 04-04-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6780717)
Not in an instant no, but from years worth of research thats readily available on the internet...and a little bit of common sense too.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/he...er-report.html

Cost NHS less in long run...so saving money

http://bma.org.uk/working-for-change...ing-statistics

2.7b cost to the NHS for smoking related illnesses
2.5b lost in sick leave and such

http://www.the-tma.org.uk/tma-public...-from-tobacco/

12.7b revenue from smokers

7.2 billion difference if I am not mistaken...so put in more than they take out, as I said.

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It would be nice to see everyone stop smoking, but its never going to happen. And the government certainly dont want to to either. Just watch this space, 2 years time or so e-cigs will be illegal all over the UK because they help many people to stop :wink:

Also I dont think I have ever seen cigarette advertising, ever :conf:

eh? you dont watch formula one then?

the truth 04-04-2014 06:45 PM

the country cant afford for people to stop boozing, but we can afford for them to stop smoking

Vicky. 04-04-2014 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 6780762)
eh? you dont watch formula one then?

Never :laugh:

Theres not actually that much difference in revenue from ciggies and alcohol. The country cant afford for everyone to stop either.

the truth 04-04-2014 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6780769)
Never :laugh:

Theres not actually that much difference in revenue from ciggies and alcohol. The country cant afford for everyone to stop either.

that cannot possibly be true. i will check the figures when i have time

user104658 04-04-2014 09:32 PM

It will make very little difference, much like the covers in shops. If there's an adult left in the country who isn't yet aware that "smoking kills", then smoking is the least of their worries. They shouldn't be out on their own in public, as there's a very high chance that they'll simply wander into traffic... or possibly attempt to eat their own hands.

Unconcerned about the tax on them though. I say double the tax on both and lessen the tax burden elsewhere, or simply use it to reduce the deficit. You could definitely double the tax on alcohol and people would still drink just as much.

There's no reasonable or moral argument for NOT doing so, either. Getting pissed and filling your lungs with smoke is not a basic human right.

joeysteele 04-04-2014 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 6780726)
No, they would stop selling ciggies period. Raising the cost is stupid and greedy considering the revenue they already make.

And when ciggies are banned, we can start on alcohol..which ruins many more lives than smoking does. Then we can start banning cream cakes and such. Then the NHS can collapse under the weight of millions of OAPs with alzheimers, and everyone will be happy :D

Actually yes, a far better point, they would Vicky, I agree.

InOne 05-04-2014 06:30 AM

Let's put it this way - a concealed box behind a counter which apparently has dangerous things will only cause wonder to kids. It makes them a lot more curious than if they were actually just there. If people want to smoke they will, if they don't they won't. It's becoming an Orwellian society.

joeysteele 05-04-2014 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 6781527)
Let's put it this way - a concealed box behind a counter which apparently has dangerous things will only cause wonder to kids. It makes them a lot more curious than if they were actually just there. If people want to smoke they will, if they don't they won't. It's becoming an Orwellian society.

Absolutely spot on.
For instance,the closed sliding doors in supermarkets hiding cigarettes and tobacco have actually likely brought more attention to cigarettes from what I have heard from staff there.

arista 05-04-2014 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by InOne (Post 6781527)
Let's put it this way - a concealed box behind a counter which apparently has dangerous things will only cause wonder to kids. It makes them a lot more curious than if they were actually just there. If people want to smoke they will, if they don't they won't. It's becoming an Orwellian society.



No young kids
will no longer get the brands
Hooked in their eyes.
they no longer want to smoke
as its got no brand


It works

AnnieK 05-04-2014 08:38 AM

I've never once met a smoker who chose their brand of cigs because of the packaging...

Jordan. 05-04-2014 08:39 AM

If you're idiotic enough to take up smoking in the first place I doubt a gross picture is gonna have any affect

Jords 05-04-2014 08:40 AM

If it bothered peopled theyd just buy some sort of cigarette holder and ditch the package upon purchase.

arista 05-04-2014 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 6781579)
I've never once met a smoker who chose their brand of cigs because of the packaging...


Of course not
by then they are older & so used to the
Trendy Deadly Smoking Packets.



This is about Future kids.


Think about it

Nedusa 05-04-2014 08:46 AM

I think all children at the age of nine should be forced to chain smoke a whole pkt of 20 cigs until they are violently sick.

Probably see the number of teenagers who take up smoking reduce drastically because of this.

Maybe a pint of whiskey as well ?

Vicky. 05-04-2014 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6781589)
I think all children at the age of nine should be forced to chain smoke a whole pkt of 20 cigs until they are violently sick.

Probably see the number of teenagers who take up smoking reduce drastically because of this.

Maybe a pint of whiskey as well ?

...my mum tried this with me when she found out I smoked weed.

Her boyfriend always smoked it so the pair of them thought they would teach me a lesson...fed me joint after joint while getting me to drink straight vodka (as most people are ill when mixing alcohol and dope) but messed up a bit as they were doing the same hing, but they had less than me.

What happened was her and her boyfriend ended up passed out absolutely wrecked, and I ended up inviting my friends round to finish the vodka/weed :S

Jords 05-04-2014 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6781589)
I think all children at the age of nine should be forced to chain smoke a whole pkt of 20 cigs until they are violently sick.

Probably see the number of teenagers who take up smoking reduce drastically because of this.

Maybe a pint of whiskey as well ?

Not sadistic at all.


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