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Also think it of in a vice versa scenario...if Muslims were under the impression a store was using Halal meat only to then find out they hadn't been all along there would be hell on.
It's not really about there being no difference in the meat imo it's the principle and if they keep things like that quiet what else are they hiding? |
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No difference to me. Halal and Kosher tastes much better usually anyway so it's good if anything.
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where do you stop? |
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live for sharia law law live for sharia law law |
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I agree with this, I do have issues with how animals are slaugtered so I would like to know if a meat is halal or not, plus I do not really understand why in a country which claims to be be non anything (religiously speaking) we want to appeal to a law laid down by Islam and apply it to 100% of the population? |
I usually get pepperoni there. If they're using halal meat with pork then they're not following traditions anyway are they? Unless the pepperoni isn't pork or they have separate areas.
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"Halal foods are foods that Muslims are allowed to eat or drink under Islamic Shariʻah. The criteria specify both what foods are allowed, and how the food must be prepared. The foods addressed are mostly types of meat and animal tissue.
The most common example of non-halal (or haraam) food is pork. While pork is the only meat that cannot be eaten by Muslims at all (due to historically, culturally, and religiously perceived hygienic concerns), foods other than pork can also be haraam. The criteria for non-pork items include their source, the cause of the animal's death, and how it was processed. The food must come from a supplier that uses halal practices. Specifically, the slaughter must be performed by a Muslim, who must precede the slaughter by invoking the name of Allah, most commonly by saying "Bismillah" ("In the name of God") and then three times "Allahu akbar" (God is the greatest). Then, the animal must be slaughtered with a sharp knife by cutting the throat, windpipe and the blood vessels in the neck (while the animal is conscious), causing the animal’s death without cutting the spinal cord. Lastly, the blood from the veins must be drained. Muslims must also ensure that all foods (particularly processed foods), as well as non-food items like cosmetics and pharmaceuticals, are halal. Frequently, these products contain animal by-products or other ingredients that are not permissible for Muslims to eat or use on their bodies." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal I mean you could not make that crap up, oh hang on they did. Do we really want to condone such stuff? |
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Now let's all go and look at the horrors of an ordinary, run-of-the-mill abattoir. You couldn't make that stuff up either. You can't be all weepy about one kind of slaughter and condone another which is just as barbaric in a different way.
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Never ate there so don't care at all..probably wouldn't care even if I did eat there.
But its a bit crap to keep this quiet. Imagine the uproar if it had been the other way around and meat people thought was Halal turned out not to be :o |
I agree Vicky. They make it a bigger deal if they aren't open about it.
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The other week we were a christian country. not sure what baby jesus would say about his american hot being blessed to his rival god Alan
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I really don't get the big deal - the UK's Muslim population has exploded over the last century, it's a compromise of accommodating your customer base and just generally being more tolerant to do something like this, I don't really see how it's a bad thing. There's no difference in taste or quality, it's just to do with the way the animal is slaughtered - nobody thinks about where the toppings on their pizza came from before they started eating it: if they did, they probably wouldn't have meat on a pizza. That's probably why it's been kept quiet. People don't really know what halal means, and if they bothered to find out, they'd inevitably start thinking about animal slaughter and probably not want to eat it - which would be the case if they thought about how animals were slaughtered anyway. :shrug:
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I think it is a big deal due to the religious connoctations and that it is enshrined in Islamic law, this last time I looked is not a Country that has to adhere to Shariah Law. All food sold in supermarkets has to be labelled correctly I don't know why that courtesy doesn't extend to restaurants. |
I get where you're coming from but I really don't think I've ever thought about where my food is coming from or the religious affiliations of the restaurant/people who work there whenever I've gone out for dinner and I'm not about to start now. I don't feel duped or tricked in any way, I'd imagine there'd have been a big furore if they'd made a big song and dance about how their meat is halal because there's a lot of religious intolerance and misconceptions about Islam in the UK (see: Marks and Spencers recent uproar about a tiny minority of Muslim staff not wanting to handle pork and alcohol) and everyone gets lumped into the same boat - it's just not something worth getting worked up about IMO, it tastes the same, it looks the same, a spade's a spade.
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Feck Sake ZEE its not the fact its Halal Its the Fecking Fact that it was kept secret You must know about being Honest I mean your off to Russia to Report for Tibb Live News |
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food blessed for muslims and killed slowly with lots of Blood Click the first post link |
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--------------------------------------------------------------------- "Halal foods are foods that Muslims are allowed to eat or drink under Islamic Shariʻah. The criteria specify both what foods are allowed, and how the food must be prepared. The foods addressed are mostly types of meat and animal tissue. The most common example of non-halal (or haraam) food is pork. While pork is the only meat that cannot be eaten by Muslims at all (due to historically, culturally, and religiously perceived hygienic concerns), foods other than pork can also be haraam. The criteria for non-pork items include their source, the cause of the animal's death, and how it was processed. The food must come from a supplier that uses halal practices. Specifically, the slaughter must be performed by a Muslim, who must precede the slaughter by invoking the name of Allah, most commonly by saying "Bismillah" ("In the name of God") and then three times "Allahu akbar" (God is the greatest). Then, the animal must be slaughtered with a sharp knife by cutting the throat, windpipe and the blood vessels in the neck (while the animal is conscious), causing the animal’s death without cutting the spinal cord. Lastly, the blood from the veins must be drained. Muslims must also ensure that all foods (particularly processed foods), as well as non-food items like cosmetics and pharmaceuticals, are halal. Frequently, these products contain animal by-products or other ingredients that are not permissible for Muslims to eat or use on their bodies." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal |
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but yes they should have been open about it |
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