You put this so much better than I could have done - thank you

And FYI I don't find Pauline "entertaining" before you all say I do, I just think that people should have their time in the show cut short if they aren't contributing, and those that are contributing should stay to the end.

There's a difference between contributon and entertainment. I don't feel entertained when I see Helen or Pauline, but the drama that ensues over it is definitely making a great show, so I don't understand why you'd want to get rid of contributors.

exactly. none of that would have happened if it weren't for Pauline

You don't have to like her to value her presence on the show.

Pauline's "drama" (bitching about people behind their backs for the most part) is boring tbh. Like, she's just taking pages left and right from A Brimful of Nut Roast: Carole Vincent's Greatest Hits, but Carole was A) better at it B) the only person left doing something C) actually had a stranglehold over the house.

..I do think that they need to intervene if it goes on like this..hopefully with the chants for Pauline and Jale being saved first, she'll now lose the 'ears' of the other housemates or most of them..

I can't stand her but Pauline and Helen are making this show for me, they could go down as 2 of the biggest BB villains ever and Pualine shouldn't go yet

KEEP HA IN.

..but that's all she has to offer though Salman..she is a bully and it has had a 'shock factor' so given something to talk about but why would anyone want to see someone bullied for weeks and weeks for their entertainment..?..

I can't stand her but Pauline and Helen are making this show for me, they could go down as 2 of the biggest BB villains ever and Pualine shouldn't go yet

KEEP HA IN.

I don't value her presence on the show though.

I don't find anything she has done lately as entertaining and find it all to be very nasty and spiteful, she has sucked the fun out of the entire house, the housemates tiptoe round her in case she turns on them and they are even scared to eat ffs in case she goes mental.

That's not entertaining. It's awful.

Pauline is one of the least likeable housemates I've watched. I won't miss her when she's gone.

I don't class the drama she brings to the house as entertainment.

I get what the op means, Pauline is incredibly annoying but she is providing drama, I still want her to at least be up for nomination, she needs to be taken down a pegs (s)

The way the minority of us are feeling now is the same way we all feel when the casual fans boo/evict forum faves like Deana, Heaven etc. Just remember that. You might be regretting your persistence in wanting her out if there is literally nothing to air for the next few weeks.

And it looks like Danielle has calmed down too, so we won't really be expecting any fights rom her if she stays.

..I agree that most of the housemates have 'calmed down' Hayden but I think that's because Pauline is stifling personalities in there and so long as she is still in there, we'll have a lot less interesting house..all we'll have is psychological control of other people and that's not 'entertainment'...

Everyone currently is defined by their relationships with Pauline. Her ****'s so repetitive and it's only Week 1, if anything her eviction will shake up house dynamics, shift the power, and allow for new storylines to develop and for other people to get more visibility.

It's not the bloody Pauline show though.. and that's how it's being edited.

..yeah, I think that's exactly it...if Pauline wasn't there it would only add to the house and add to the potential for other conflicts and 'drama'..

Finally, some sense around here

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..they've been in a week though..:laugh:..all of the drama doesn't happen in the first week and all of the big personalities don't come out straight away...Pauline has dominated the first week I know but I don't think she has anything else to offer...and I think she'll detract more than she adds to the house..there is a difference between entertaining and over-powering..

who was that welsh woman from like bb5 or so who was truly vile? pauline is as bad as she was and as bad as that all saints cow on IACGMOOH

I don't like her, but I'm cool with her staying until week 4-5ish or so..after that other people need to be rid of her so they can come out their shell properly.

When I say entertaining I mean it's compelling. If it becomes proper bullying, in terms of Conor level then yeah I'll turn against her because that in no way can be justified but I honestly don't even see it as that bad? She gave the same kinda treatment to Christopher, not just Jale, and they were both discussing Pauline's behaviour tonight. I'm not trying to dispute the fact that Jale's having a hard time in there but i just don't get the feeling that she's being truly octracized and alone.

I agree the dynamics of the house should always change, if it's constantly just Pauline then yeah that's obviously not a good thing

Lisa? from BB4?

HE BETTER NOT BE TALKING ABOUT LISA JEYNES SHE IS A GODDESS x