You people thinking we must mean bitching whenever we talk about them providing something :facepalm: really bored of having to explain that I'm not that obsessed with drama as you may think I am

Steven doesn't bitch (a lot), he provides something. Well...his developing storyline with Kimberly means he is, and actually she is too. At last.

Mark doesn't bitch (again, a lot) and he provides something...humour (I find him funnier than everyone else) and a good read and insight of the house dynamics which is interesting to hear.

Winston is just...there. Nice guy, but there. Marlon has been practically invisible until tonight.

um no, I can post what I like

At this moment in time because of tonight's events. Strange that.

Just like 3 days ago, the most common threads centred on Helen and Jale.

But this "bore" Winston who does nothing is quite the topic of conversation in a lot of these threads. :whistle:

when will shakespeare

No they don't but like I said above even one sentence with a reason for your disagreeing adds a whole lot more than what you did, if it was a one off then fair enough but you do it a lot hence my post about it.

You edited out the rest

Well, no, I was referring to the fact that kizzy mentioned he doesn't bitch and you responded that he doesn't add anything despite her saying he provides humour and gets stuck into the tasks without complaining.

But thanks for the "you people" :laugh:

Also, Stephen's "developing story lines" wouldn't be the showmance? The very thing "you people" (:hehe:) wanted Tamara/Winston out for?

Apologies. I shall not edit out your conclusions in future posts.

Marsh i think its time you hit the sheets for a well earned night sleep.
you have really demolished tonight.

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http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...s.php?tag=toya
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...ag=toya&page=2

Actually, it was from the 14th June when there were a lot of threads based around Toya. A page and around a half, to be more precise.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...hp?tag=winston

Regarding Winston, he had around half a page worth of threads relating to him within the same time span, showing he's been less discussed on here than the "bore" Toya has.

But there's not a lot to dissect with that is there? With Steven and Kimberly we can talk about the legitimacy of it all, with Mark we can talk about how accurate his read of house dynamics are and his role in the different groups because he seems to float a bit, with Winston it's just like 'haha what a great guy getting stuck into the tasks!!', I mean he had the Tamara thing so that could've continued but she left so? He is literally just there

And it's because I'm so fed up of having to repeat myself, despite posting on like two occasions a massive long post in a thread with numerous members explaining that I don't just like 'bitching' as a load of people on here seem to believe, and I'm not obsessed with drama and like civilised, intellectual conversations as much as anyone else (also why I miss the live feed) - there are still accusations being thrown at me of only being interested in bitchy housemates, it's so boring and annoying having to repeat the same stuff over and over again when you just feel like 'I've already explained this to you'

It really isn't that deep lol

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If tonight is anything to go by, a lot of Toya fans like to create a new thread for each opinion. :shrug: Might sound harsh but that's what I've noticed.

I have never, ever said I disliked showmances. I actually don't understand people's problems with them because I would rather one develop and give two or more housemates a role in the show than them be background characters like Sam Evans. Showmances can actually end up being quite messy and hilarious to watch (case in point: Chiggy).

I wanted Tamara out because at the time Danielle and Jale were contributing far more, I didn't even dislike Tamara and thought she had promise so it's a shame she left, she was just the least useful of the three

Nice try though :hehe:

Fair enough. I just feel certain housemates are cast aside with the "they don't add much" brush a little too unfairly when they don't get a look in thanks to a few people dominating with drama.

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Never tried to imply it was.

Just proving that wasn't the case.

I never said she wasn't discussed beforehand. But there is a reason she has been given a bump lately. Highlights coverage thanks to the volume of her mouth.

Which has evidently gained some attention among here and shows that she's done more than wear a bathrobe, otherwise the threads wouldn't have been made.

Because she's involved in an argument like Winston. :conf:

Your original point was about prior to drama. Outside of drama, Toya's done nothing.

This PH nominations is the only thing she's had. Prior to that she's had her bathrobe and trying to crawl into the Pauline/Helen/Jale stories. Winston had his own with Tamara. :hmph:

I was talking about the "volume of her mouth" part of the post, since there have been threads days before the argument with Winston, which are about Toya being "gobby" and a "shouty loud mouthed idiot".

This house has mostly been dramatic this year, and not so light-hearted, hence why I feel Toya's contributed more than Winston. If the house was more humorous and light-hearted, then it'd probably be the other way around.

And Winston had nothing to do in the house once the brief showmance with Tamara ended.

Thank you. :smug: