yea of course but toya went cause of her personality same as ash nearly went.
and same as if helen was up she would of gone.

really to the majority it all comes down to personality.

So you freely admit that winston is useless as a housemate but you'll actively dismiss this because a woman drew him into a conflict where he immediately back down.

sigh

Except when you transplant the womens personality onto the men.

Men are fine to say and do what they want because, hey...

'boys will be boys'

Why is ASH SO HATED THEN?

Your theory is flawed!

Made relevant by Toya. Utterly useless and boring without her.

Again. Made relevant by Toya.

It doesn't make him interesting, it makes him awful and still dull.

I agree with you. For some reason I don't know what it is about the women but they fall into certain categories. The are either miserable, evil, or sluts. Men on the other hand do come of as being much more fun and care free. Those words are never used to describe the men. The men in the house on this series do seem to be having way more fun than the girls. They just seem so miserable. The men always seem to be enjoying themselves so much more than the women and I guess that's why women are always out first.

Why is ash still there?

Never said that makes it right but I'm sure that with the relationship they have with her now they would never do something like that again.

Ash is hated. Your opinion proven wrong.

Your logic is flawed because Marlon should be more hated than Ash and he's not.

Because its such a good relationship that they just sat there while their so called friend was called a maggot by their other friend.

Yes soooo much more fun

At others expense

'Highly hilarious when Jale was nominated, lets laugh in her face....sooo much fun'

'Jale the Maggost....put the water back in the pool' OMG soooo much fun lets all laugh at her.

'You've nominated me?

How DARE you nominate me. Im above being nominated. Its funny when your up for eviction but you dare turn that on us? Nah not happy.'

Because Toya was worst at the beginning of the week when the voting lines opened.

Because only one person can be evicted per week.

Toya being evicted in a show that is notorious for booting out the bitches and booing them and you want to cling onto the sexism card?

:joker: She was a loud mouthed bitch. End of.

Ash is still there. Im proven right.

They'd rather keep a chauvinistic, arrogant, spiteful nasty man over a strong willed, fair, albeit overpowering woman

Soz Saskia

Well tell me one remotely interesting thing that Kimberly has done all series? The girl from the VT has not shown up in the house at all apart from her looks.

And it was mostly women who voted her out also. Wasn't much sexism involved.

Thats right, turn it back on the girls.

You're not proven right. Only one person can go, one has to pull in the most votes.

It's no more sexist than if Ash had gone in her place.

You try to spin Toya's attributes as positive things, they're not.

Back when the opinionated women were normal girls. :flutter:

Its absolutely useless trying to communicate with you. You have a Marlon vizor on and can't see past the end of his ego.

Women hate women.

Its internalised sexism, but its still sexism

Except Ash has been truly vile.

Astro Ash nearly lost to Toya tonight that's how interesting he is.

And please tell me who has made Kimberly relevant in the house? If anything she's helped turn Steven into a male version of herself.

In all honesty all of the girls have just been bitchy and boring. Danielle, Ashleigh, and Kimberly have been boring as hell. Jale has done more than they have. And Helen is one of the people carrying the show. Toya and Pauline were good but they were evicted because they were being bitches not because they are women.