Well she's a better housemate...that much is obvious, but a better person? The very idea that anyone could even think that is laughable, it's not up for debate at all

I'm a bit conflicted on the whole thing :shrug: obviously I'm happy people seem to be appreciating Helen's value as a housemate but this is at the expense of Ashleigh who whilst no isn't as good a housemate yet (she's probably second after Helen though) is infinitely the better person? If people were preferring her on housemate status alone I wouldn't have a problem. My problem is how three weeks ago people all over this forum were crying, moaning, screaming and wailing that Helen was this vile, horrible bully that needed to be removed (IMO the whole thing was ridiculously blown out of proportion in comparison to other incidents of genuine bullying on BBUK but that's a separate debate) and suddenly Ashleigh goes from being this irrelevant nothing character to someone who bitches about and criticises the most hated housemate in recent history and now SHE'S the one being booed and slated on here and people are taking Helen's side? What kind of logic is that?

It's almost as if they've forgotten how they felt about Helen's behaviour a few weeks ago and personally I think it says a lot about how fickle viewers of this show are

Not to mention it's ridiculous how Ashleigh could be preferred when she did nothing at all :facepalm:

Not Ashleigh nor any Day 2 HMs had a shot at the final pass, Pauline disregarded them straight away.

The public are very fickle always will be... + Helen while pretty vile is good entertainment, and there is a broken side to her that just about allows people to forgive, and tbf she usually admitted when she acts like a twat.

Ashleigh on the other hand comes off as a vile little brat whos waaayyy to sure of herself and just wants to p**s on everyones chips. Theres no redeeming fun side to Ashleigh its all bitch no laughs.

Also the GB public love knocking people off their high horses and Ashleigh was on a very high horse. Helen realised she was gonna get Ash evicted and totally restrained herself, she basically beat Ashleigh at her own game amusingly.

Helen showed empathy towards Chris few days ago. Not the first time she showed her nice side either. Was nice to Christopher just after the eviction too.
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Do I have the honors of saying "just because YOU think Helen's the better HM doesn't mean she is" line that's inevitable?

Put simply for all her faults (and there are many) Helen does have a fun/nice side. She can have a laugh... and she can be quite sweet at times

Ashleigh has no nice side, its just 24/7 teddy bear hugging and bitching, shes like some horror film character gone wrong.

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Ashleigh's plan did work, she did defeat Helen in the actual choosing which male HM's should be up...it's just the GBP that *******ed up.

Ashleigh is far superior, in every way.

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Don't know what show your watching but tonight she lost the person she least wanted to go and Helen got rid of her rival in the process as keeping her biggest ally so to me I don't know how you can say Ashleigh won.. she buried her own grave by bragging about putting Ash up

But in what way does that prove Helen is superior to Ashleigh? im not getting your point.

Helen and the others weren't going to put Ash up for eviction, Ashleigh won them around to put him up for eviction, her job was done...she had every right to assume that the GBP wouldn't be arsehole enough to actually vote someone else out...I mean she assumed that we lived in a civilised country.

Because Helen totally ****ed up her plan and stayed calm for large parts of the week and kept clear of Ash as much as she could at the start of the week and didn't go and look for Drama like previous weeks.. She read the public and how they would see things like a book and that is the mistake Ashleigh made by bragging about her evil plan.. She had no idea how bad it would look and has costed her big time and also coated her friend a place in the house, Helen trusted in the public and they came up with the goods

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And got her friend evicted in the process. :joker:

Ashleigh fans were saying she planned to save Marlon to ensure Ash's eviction, so no, it didn't work.

Or, Helen was given a final warning from BB and was told to wind her neck in.

True, because the GBP cocked things up...but her side of the plan worked.

You can hardly blame her for things that are beyond her control.

Everything that transpired did so according to the evil Palpatine's design, apart from when Vader shafted him :cheer2:

The last part of her plan was trusting the British public to vote out Ash so no it failed miserably

I never said anything about blame. Her plan simply did not work. It backfired more than anything.

whatever lol

Ain't that the truth. I'll never understand how characters like Helen and Ash are admired and rewarded. They are obviously role models to some....

lets face it, she tried, she failed, she is a non entity and we want her out

see ya babe!!!!

yeah it worked so well that Ash stayed lololol

See ya...wouldn't want to be ya...."babe".

Jesus, some chavs on here. :shrug:

lets forget how they didnt suss her out earlier......all we need to know is that Matthewhas gone and Ash is still there......................its enough for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!