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rubymoo 04-08-2014 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7124713)
Christopher is a journalist. You cannot be a journalist if you are Jar Jar Binks.

I could definitely see the journalist in Christopher last night, and i think Christopher manipulated the situation well #moreairtime

Ellen 04-08-2014 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rubymoo (Post 7125868)
I could definitely see the journalist in Christopher last night, and i think Christopher manipulated the situation well #moreairtime

I agree rubyroo... Mark can go ott but yes Christopher definitely manipulated the situation.

MrWong 04-08-2014 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 7124697)
I think Christopher took what the focus group said, and then specifically went for Mark with that game player tag to make himself look stronger. It was entirely false and bore no resemblance to his previous behaviour before the focus group. Entirely premeditated by Christopher

Well said. As things stand, Christopher is the most disloyal and untrustworthy.

waterhog 04-08-2014 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by troy4783 (Post 7124670)
I'm not the biggest fan of Mark and I actually like Christopher more out of the two but I think Mark had a point in there arguement and I agreed with him. I think it was wrong for Christopher to pick the person who's he's meant to be the closest too in the house and who he will possibly have a realtionship with outisde of the house as the biggest game player and the least trust worthy and loyal.

if he no's all this - how can you be attracted to someone like this ? said all along christopher is weak.

Tip 04-08-2014 09:26 AM

Maybe Christopher was being honest and couldn't actually vote for either of the other two over Mark.

Mark and he have a bit of a strange friendship - as someone said they are already like an old married couple with the way they carry on at each other and all the drama.

Might have been seen as dishonest if Christopher had chosen those traits for Helen or Winston.

Sure he may also have been getting revenge for the times that Mark didn't select him for teams etc. which people interpreted as snubbing him.

Their relationship has been kind of like this with the way Mark has been treated Christopher so I guess he could have been giving back some of what he's been getting.

rubymoo 04-08-2014 09:32 AM

I think he did it to get a reaction from Mark (as it really isn't that hard!) to get more airtime, the game is definitely on, and from what i saw last night, it was Christopher who was very much in control!

bots 04-08-2014 09:50 AM

Mark had a really tough week. I would question anyone's capability to deal with what was thrown at him this week, whether its the truth or not.

For me, Christopher took the opportunity to stick the knife in, which is pretty low given his supposed infatuation with Mark. Kicking someone when they are down is not the persona I would have expected from him given how he has been treated in the past, and from the way he talked previously.

Another hm off my list of good children when it comes to next Christmas :nono:

jet 04-08-2014 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 7126031)
Mark had a really tough week. I would question anyone's capability to deal with what was thrown at him this week, whether its the truth or not.

For me, Christopher took the opportunity to stick the knife in, which is pretty low given his supposed infatuation with Mark. Kicking someone when they are down is not the persona I would have expected from him given how he has been treated in the past, and from the way he talked previously.

Another hm off my list of good children when it comes to next Christmas :nono:

Well said.

Same here as regards fave HM's . My already small list is shrinking rapidly.

LukeB 04-08-2014 12:42 PM

as winstons said its only a game. mark was going ott,

VirtualWaster 04-08-2014 03:24 PM

Dogs are sometimes known to turn on their owners, turn someone into a dog you may get bitten.

Jords 04-08-2014 03:26 PM

I understood Mark's feelings but then I also understood Christopher's take on things (bearing the publics' remarks in mind).

jet 04-08-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 7126678)
I understood Mark's feelings but then I also understood Christopher's take on things (bearing the publics' remarks in mind).

But when they were arguing about it afterwards Christopher didn't mention that he was thinking of the public's remarks. He said he was trying to be 'fair'. Fair to who? He's a disloyal twat.

Nell_McCoy 04-08-2014 03:49 PM

Christopher's answers were honest but cruel. I'd rather he'd been a bit cowardly and more kind in his answers regarding Mark. There is no doubt his knowledge of public perception is weighing heavily on him and opening his eyes to Mark's worst characteristics. Christopher is still in my top two but he is not just as nice as I believed.

jet 04-08-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy (Post 7126741)
Christopher's answers were honest but cruel. I'd rather he'd been a bit cowardly and more kind in his answers regarding Mark. There is no doubt his knowledge of public perception is weighing heavily on him and opening his eyes to Mark's worst characteristics. Christopher is still in my top two but he is not just as nice as I believed.

Fair points.

Achilles 04-08-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 7126690)
But when they were arguing about it afterwards Christopher didn't mention that he was thinking of the public's remarks. He said he was trying to be 'fair'. Fair to who? He's a disloyal twat.

Trying to be fair yet he voted Mark as most likely to win with Winston stood there and after hearing all the Mark bashing from the past week. I wasn't born yesterday Christopher.

jet 04-08-2014 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7126758)
Trying to be fair yet he voted Mark as most likely to win with Winston stood there and after hearing all the Mark bashing from the past week. I wasn't born yesterday Christopher.

:thumbs: Exactly.

hijaxers 04-08-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jet (Post 7124834)
Because he now knows Mark isn't the fave to win he thought he was and he's currying the public's favour. The last few days have really put me off him. He's getting so full of himself and he's just so darn ANNOYING.

This ! Christopher as driven me nuts since the forum thing - he has obviously thought Mark was gonna win - talkabout a complete turnaround - i dislike him intensely now - he's behaved like a complete twat

Sophiee 04-08-2014 04:23 PM

I actually was thinking the very same thing. I could totally see where mark was coming from and it does seem strange if christopher really does think all this negative stuff about him yet keeps going back for more and thinks he could possibly be in a relationship with him, it doesn't make sense. seeing as they are the closest mark would most likely feel quite betrayed and upset. mark just doesn't put his point forward well at all, christopher is good at explaining and defence, even though his comeback actually had nothing to do with their argument it still sounded good :laugh:.

Achilles 04-08-2014 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sophiee (Post 7127056)
I actually was thinking the very same thing. I could totally see where mark was coming from and it does seem strange if christopher really does think all this negative stuff about him yet keeps going back for more and thinks he could possibly be in a relationship with him, it doesn't make sense. seeing as they are the closest mark would most likely feel quite betrayed and upset. mark just doesn't put his point forward well at all, christopher is good at explaining and defence, even though his comeback actually had nothing to do with their argument it still sounded good :laugh:.

It makes perfect sense if Christopher is using Mark in order to get sympathy. As well as getting sympathy for himself it turns the public against Mark. Before they began their "relationship" Mark was the favourite to win. Not now.

Sophiee 04-08-2014 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7127103)
It makes perfect sense if Christopher is using Mark in order to get sympathy. As well as getting sympathy for himself it turns the public against Mark. Before they began their "relationship" Mark was the favourite to win. Not now.

christopher doesn't come across as that sort of person though, I actually think he's the most genuine one in there and he's always had a lot of time for mark. I don't think he'd do anything with bad intentions.

Achilles 04-08-2014 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sophiee (Post 7127371)
christopher doesn't come across as that sort of person though, I actually think he's the most genuine one in there and he's always had a lot of time for mark. I don't think he'd do anything with bad intentions.

If he DID come across as that type of person it would mean his game plan was failing miserably. Can only work if you convince people.
If he has a lot of time for Mark why did he not choose him as most loyal and most trustworthy? What was the motive for it?

Sophiee 04-08-2014 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Achilles (Post 7127423)
If he DID come across as that type of person it would mean his game plan was failing miserably. Can only work if you convince people.
If he has a lot of time for Mark why did he not choose him as most loyal and most trustworthy? What was the motive for it?

true but I just don't think he has a gameplan. so mark had gotten cheers in the past, but so had he and he'd been surviving every eviction. it was only the housemates that assumed mark was favourite to win, there was no evidence of such thing.
I don't honestly know and I don't think he did either but he realized he made a mistake afterwards by not choosing him, which is why he didn't give an explanation for it to mark.


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