Yes and quick.

I know you were Lex but Achilles was making a general point about 2 groups one positive one negative not one person in particular.

I get what you are saying though and see what you mean we are just discussing Helen not Ashleigh.

Glad you took it in the humour it was posted:laugh:

I've just watched a video clip, Helen says she does feel guilty about the no food ( not even tea and coffee) no appliances no hot water, Ashleigh says she hasn't heard anyone apologise as yet ,Helen says she just said she felt guilty followed by DONT TEll ME HOW TO FEEL ASHLEIGH at no point did Ashleigh tell her how to feel, clear example of selective hearing.Helen then goes into the garden and relays the story and embellishes Ashleighs input and of course her own .STUPID

It's only a gameshow!:cheer2:

let helen keep digging.

She will be in Australia soon :joker:

Keep digging that grave Helen :smug:

will it even help?

Yes,hopefully Ashleigh will fall in the hole:laugh:

That sums Helen up and Ash and Winston too. Helen feels guilty. SHE feels guilty for HERSELF. She doesn't care about the other housemates and so she doesn't want to apologize. That's not in her nature. She is selfish and nasty. Just like during the row over £25k. £3k SHE likes that, because SHE is getting that. £1k to charity F that. She is a vile mess of a human being

Helen knows she wont win so why should she hold back on how she feels at certain times,if someone told me to apologise I'de make them wait too.

To be fair, I think that Helen is just impulsive and she has been trying to reign it in a bit. You can't blame her for getting angry a lot of the time though

:cheer2:

She knows she won't win but does she know that everytime she acts like an aggressive moron she strengthens Ashleighs chances of winning? :think:

Helen doesn't need to win, but she needs a decent amount of air time for her future plans I reckon so she's playing it more and more now.

She can control herself when she wants to - she just had to work out the balance between being in the drama and getting warned.

I'll not be surprised to see more and more silly antics now the end is getting closer. Hope BB has enough fruit for them to fight with - oh what fun.

I don't see why ,there are other housemates in there worthy of winning,imo,anyway.

Yes, she is also hypocritical and delusional. A foul, trouble making, vindictive excuse for a human being.

I guess I feel a little sorry for her though. How much effort it must take to be so appalling.

I agree with OP, she needs help - and soon.

Yes, as is Ashleigh

No. She's too stupid. :hehe:

C'mon Niamh,we know shes going to win,but is she worthy? I don't think so.

Yes.lets just keep calling her names ,that will really strengthen your argument (NOT),how very mature of you

That does seem to be how I feel about Helen tbh - I guess you hold some posters on here to a higher standard than you do some HMs? lol.

She is stupid through and through , she musts reacts rather than thinks.

She is though Kazanne that's the theme of this thread, she doesn't learn she is so self involved it's unreal, you can't argue with stupid.