Pointless and turning into poisonous Pav with more talk from out of Helen & Ash's back passage.

Yeah this, obviously I'm not a fan of the "cool Kids" but the three of them were taking the piss out of eachother and at what the public had said about them, tbf Helen was getting the worst of the ribbing from Ash

That was just so cringe - yuk.

I feel neutral about him as he has done little right or wrong.Gave it large at the start but has appeared like a little lost Rabbit caught in the headlights.

RE Swerving Chris I think he was very hurt /embarrassed by the accusation that he was staring at Ashleigh yet he did not defend himself which he had every right to.

So he is now cool by default.

I agree he is very wiley, but his "poor me" game is wearing thin and if Ashleigh wins he only has himself to blame as he switched to evict Danielle :hehe:

I bet he's kicking himself about that now :hehe:

To be honest I think he is the most pointless BB HM in years, he adds NOTHING to the show, he has no personality and nothing interesting to say. he shows no talents other than shrinking into the background.

Worst HM by a long way, out of his depth and if removed tomorrow it would be a week before anyone would notice.

A wasted opportunity by BB to put into the house a far larger Alpha male/female character that could have shaken things up and earned a genuine chance in winning the show.:crazy::crazy:





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him lying on the bed whilst helen sits on ash giving him the worlds worst massage was

cringe

I can't help but feel that people are annoyed he chose to spend more time with Helen / Ash over Chris / Ashleigh. I mean, if he stuck with the latter two, I doubt as many people would say things like "get some self respect", even though they weren't much warmer towards him. Actually, Chris was the worst out of them all in terms of irrational, intense dislike for him.

I do wish he'd just stayed more neutral, but I don't think he can win either way with some people. He stays alone, then he's playing for sympathy. He goes with Helen and Ash, he's kissing up to the wrong people. If he went to the other side, he'd have probably been accused of following the public reaction.

Also, he's evidently not kissing up to them. He's defended Christopher more than once, he nominated two of Helen's close friends in the last nominations and Ash the week before that, he admitted to Helen that she has said the nastiest things in there, for example.

He's shown himself to be a complete arse.

Totally agree, he couldn't win! All were equally mean to him in his first few weeks, particularly Chris, and I can understand that if he is a "lad" at home that he'd be drawn to Helen's group with Winston and Ash. And I think he is doing pretty well at being friends with them without being up their arse, just like tonight's episode in the toilet.. He made it really clear to her that she has been a bitch.

I remember when he first entered he seemed to really like Ashleigh but obviously doesn't like her much now, and I can't work out if he's genuinely changed his mind, or if he only liked her in the first place because she was a public favourite, or if he's just been scared off by Chris!

Also, can I take this opportunity to thank you for keeping John Locke alive in my heart :lovedup:

Yeah, glad you can see it too :). I mean, I don't want Pav to get involved in the "groups" thing when both were happy to nominate him just for being new, but I don't think he's sucking up to Helen and Ash, and reckon he'd be getting a tough time out here whatever he did.
And yay for another Lostie :cheer2:.

they always make out they're joking but I actually think they're serious because they've had conversations about it whilst he's not been around :suspect:.