Jet why would you keep asking people that like him to list things they dislike about him that makes no sense whatsoever.
You are moaning about there not being enough anti Gary threads which is strange just go and make one if you want one :shrug:

Why on earth would people that like him start listing negatives about him :conf:

And remember Jet.
Gary loves you. :cheer2:

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ACTUALLY PICKing his disability as the reason to nominate him is disgusting. but when one ignorant english sheep does it, the rest of the cowards soon follow

I dunno why I should have to give a list to "prove" I have a balanced opinion of Gary :laugh: but on the forum I have accepted that he can be rude at times. He does have a weird thing where he doesn't like to be interrupted but will quite often interrupt others. We've also seen him do the "ssh" thing a few times that hms seem to hate. He can be quite forceful with his opinions, like the CGI thing, he could have just dropped it but had to keep on at Leslie that it was Graphics, which was wrong anyway! :laugh: When Leslie mentioned his toilet habits I could have vommed, eww. That's definitely disrespectful of his housemates. His behaviour when David offered to give him the ice pack was a little weird, but I don't think it was "wrong" actually, just too abrupt.

I have seen other FMs who are fans of Gary admit these faults too, and yes, there are always some people who don't accept that their fave is ever in the wrong. I think it's just because Gary is a forum fave and has a lot of airtime so a lot of forum discussion that it seems that nobody accepts Gary's flaws. I've also seen fans of other hms who don't seem to accept they're ever in the wrong or that Gary's ever in the right and I agree it's dead frustrating.

In a post above you said "I prefer flawed human beings whose faults are acknowledged by others", and one of the great things about Gary is that he does acknowledge his flaws in discussions and agrees to work on them.

Because they said they know his faults yet I haven't seen them ever mention any? ....and I am not moaning about not enough anti Gary threads, I was pointing out there wasn't even ONE - different thing.

We see about 5% of what goes on.

You have to ask yourself why would the housemates not like Gary to the extent that he gets 8 nominations.

James, who attracts much hate on internet forums, got no nominations.

It must be a bitter pill to swallow for web warriors who just blindly like or dislike and cannot pick up on the nuances.

I could almost guarantee that most of Gary's fanclub on here would nominate him for eviction if they were actually stuck in the BB house, eating, sleeping and sharing washing and toilet facilities with him. ;)

theyre pack bullies like nearly every other bb house
the bullies will get picked off one by one and the decent , or in garys case the legendary housemates will remain to the very end......when justice wil be served cold:cheer2:

There was one posted which suggested that Gary must be at fault if so many housemates have a negative opinion on him. J sayin.

Gary got 8 and Leslie got what 5? is he a nightmare to live with too then? is he unbearable in the house?

Or is it the fact that the housemates are taking the easy way out, going for the easy option and jumping on the bandwagon.

Surely if he was this awful housemate that was completely loathed by everyone else then he would have 12 nominations, not 8?

And James got no nominations because the housemates can't see what he is like behind other peoples backs, they can't see how nasty he can be at times but we can.

and voted as the publics favourite and cheered?

Thank you for your honesty and taking the time to respond! :clap1:

(I'm a Gary fan too, but not for the same reasons as most I think.)

Speaking of nuances, don't you think there are more to nominations than people genuinely picking the two they dislike most? Especially face to face nominations. Examples:
- housemates could be too scared to nominate James if they find him intimidating... Or want to avoid a boring lecture :sleep:
- James is tied to more people in the house whereas Gary has no strong friendships, so it is easier to nominate without backlash
- Gary is a popular housemate, therefore a rival
- Nominating a more obvious target who lots of people will nominate means they're less likely to be in the firing line from that person next week.

I'm not saying any of these are reasons that I believe affected nominations, and just picked Gary and James as easy examples. I'm just highlighting that nominations aren't as simple as picking who they like least.

yes they really are. it depends if youre brave enough to do the right thing

I thought it was likely Gary would be heavily nominated before the series even started. Did you watch celeb apprentice USA? He drove them all up the wall on it as well . :hehe:

No I didn't actually but I'm definitely going to! Sounds fun :dance:

Also, what are your reasons for liking Gary? You said they'd be different from most.. I'm intrigued!

I'm a fan because he entertains me. IMO he's a true eccentric, smart as hell and a real wind up merchant. Imo he has no social skills (or pretends not to) which amuses me, he doesn't give a hoot what anyone thinks but pretends he does while laughing to himself and he drives people mad. I like to observe his manipulations and the effect he has on other people and how they deal with it. If he got voted out, I think I'd lose interest.

Now if I had to live with him myself -- no thanks!

I didn't see 1 hm that was surprised that Gary was saved first. The fact is that it is a game, and they believe Gary is going to win, and so they treat him the way they do, to try and punish him for that. Not one of them knows how to deal with him properly.

In a normal environment he would be treated as an oddball. People would have fun, and enjoy his company for what it is. If any single one of them was confident in their own self worth they would be firm friends with him. As it is, they are all so incredibly shallow individuals, they are running scared.

Josy you are spot on they are all following each other with the things they are saying its like a record I would love to be in there with Gary and talk to him about all he's done.

What we are seeing is enough. Gary is constantly attacked about rude behaviour listens and thanks them, when he hasnt actually been rude. Then they totally disregard his attempts to have his side of the conversation and walk off asap. I've said on another thread his toilet habits don't sound great. The point is that is no reason to vilify him at every opportunity as the housemates are doing. People are responding to their behaviour because it is far worse and far ruder than anything we see from him. I am not seeing him call anyone names or tell them how to behave. He doesnt made snide comments about them when they walk past or call them animals and 'pets'.

When David came out he wasn't quite bright enough to catch on completely but when he mentioned Gary all he could say about his apparent terrible behaviour is that he didint like having to repeat himself and even he said that sounds bad.

Rather than telling people they need to justify their opinions for supporting Gary why don't the anti gary brigade give us some word for word encounters of when Gary said something rude, nasty or vindictive to any of them. I'm not talking about saying 'oh he was rude to david or dee' or whatever. I'm talking about word for word encounters where he says something nasty.

To me hm don't like him because he is somewhat deaf and comes over as a little eccentric and his hygieme is a little off which could easily be because he is used to auto flushing toilets and being a bit unsteady in the shower like many older or disabled people. They have escalated as a pack to point where he is the scapegoat for everything and they think they can say what they like to him. It unacceptable and uncomfortable to watch.

If i was there i would love to talk to him. I know people his age can be very direct, so it wouldn't put me off. He has so many stories and i'd love to hear them all.

I completely agree and they are missing a golden opportunity.

He's just very straight talking. Nothing wrong with that. :p