I'm not refuting the opinion that James was right to be annoyed at Gary for spilling coffee. I was referring to the fact that another FM thought it was ok when Edele "only did it once" but "once was enough" when Gary may have only done it once.

I agree with the OP. I was another instance of the mob bully Gary. The sheep were gathered around the stairs and just used it as an opportunity to bitch about Gary and have a go at him.

As for edele. it was NOT an accident. They had been tossing cushoins but when Gary took up his coffee she paused and held the cushion in an agitated state. The she threw the cushion knowing full well it would spill his coffee. It was a childish and careless act.

I spill coffee all the time. I'm just clumsy. :joker:

How do you get that from my saying if he was unsteady on his feet BB wouldn't let him go up and down stairs unaided? My my, you read a lot into nothing. No, I don't think he does it deliberately...but now that you mention it, hmmm....

They were both accidents and should be treated as such.


And if Gary was really brain-damaged he shouldn't be in the house

If brain damaged people weren't allowed in the house there would be no Big Brother. :joker:

But clean it up yourself no doubt

He offered but James had already done it. You know Gary was willing to clean up after himself.

I didn't see Edele running for the towels when she knocked Gary's coffee all over him? Or is that different for some other reason too?

Stop the double standards.

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How can anyone prove it's Gary pissing everywhere....there are always issues regarding the toilet in the house, piss everywhere..not flushing...leaving seat up. I would imagine that the other guys are partly responsible but it's just easy and convenient to blame Gary....it's a male thing with toilets mainly... Gary is just a target, I am sure he maybe partly responsible but the other boys, particularly mummy's boy George who still lives at home and has his mammy cleaning up after him, are equally responsible.
Shame on them.

Most men miss anyway. :laugh:

he wasn't given the chance cause daisy did it for him.

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How do we know that for goodness sake, we only have words from the perfect HMs who do not do anything wrong? If Gary is leaving pi** in the toilet then have the decency to ask him to clear it up. It isnt very nice but I do find in my own home that young men come in and leave a pool around the toilet. Nobody owns up to it though! Knowing that all ages are capable of the same thing, I say how do they know it is Gary. Do they watch him 20/7. Did he do it once and it has been built up upon? In any case, I am positive that if he is asked he will watch out for it and sort it out. Will the others? Sorry I forgot they are perfect.

It can be proved if the loos been cleaned then he goes in

Well said Rusti, it is easier to blame the older person, I guess they all ought to have a dna test to see who the culprit is each time. Oh no, best to just blame Gary. Easier that way they do not have to own up to their own faults.

not in my house they don't ,they sit down !!

There are a lot of double standards in that house right now.
Lauren is a drunken mess & that's fine but if Frenchy behaved like that the whole house would be on at her.
George is rude to Gary, James is rude to Gary, Stephanie is rude to Gary but Frenchy can't be rude to Lauren.
Edele nominating Gary after he had just spent time talking to her really annoyed me. I don't like her.
Watching nominations was just like watching a bunch of sheep mainly nominating the same two people :sleep:

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gary messing up all of james' hard work :bored:.

If George,James are rude to Gary why didnt he nominate George yesterday when he had the chance instead of sticking the knife in his friend Frenchys back ?

Gary thinks George & James are his friends & does not know about the nasty comments they have said behind his back.
He nominated Frenchy as he can see her actions sometimes disrupt the house.
He was honest in his nominations unlike others who just followed the crowd & went for the two easy targets.
George was also nasty to him AFTER nominations.

Another revealing double standard was when Lauren pissed in the pool.

Germophobe stephanie just laughed about it. If Gary had pissed in the pool then it would have caused world war 3.

They are bullying him and using any excuse to have a go at him. Stephanie even admitted that she was.

This ^^
Stephanie would have demanded BB clean the pool & throw Gary out.
Lauren is a drunk embarrassment yet no HM takes her to task yet Gary get's slated for everything.
Still fuming that Edele nominated him coz she thought he was not genuine.
Not genuine is having an honest heart to heart with someone then going in the DR & nominating them.