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waterhog 12-09-2014 08:20 AM

24 7 would get tiring and there is only so many times you can embrace and respect someone.

Jamesy 12-09-2014 08:29 AM

It's embarrassing how obsessed some of you are with Gary. :laugh:

Gusto Brunt 12-09-2014 08:36 AM

If Robert De Niro had entered the house, benefits scrounger for 20 years Dee would have slagged him off too.

Haha. Unbelievable.

Liam- 12-09-2014 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt (Post 7262152)
If Robert De Niro had entered the house, benefits scrounger for 20 years Dee would have slagged him off too.

Haha. Unbelievable.

If Robert De Niro was an asshole to everybody too, yeah she would, rightly so :laugh:

the truth 12-09-2014 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7262155)
If Robert De Niro was an asshole to everybody too, yeah she would, rightly so :laugh:

deniro wouldnt be an ass to anyone, you havent even earned the right to talk about such a legend, the man commands respect , even the biggest scummiest reality tv english twats they could find wouldnt dare say a word out of place to a man who commands the utmost respect. same with meryl streep or many other of our greatest screen thespians. these are rightly the legends of their game, people who have entertained and educated the masses for nigh on 50 years

Trasadkel1 12-09-2014 09:14 AM

Yet again I reiterate that these arguments would stand if we had access to live feed like we used to and were able to judge people on what we saw and perceived of them ourselves not an edited version of what BB choose to show us. I cannot understand how people can seriously judge people so harshly when that is the case. It has been said that Gary is rude, pushing people, has hygiene issues etc. if BB had chosen to show that side of him we could have had a totally different story line and people would have been baying against him. I would suggest that they haven't because of his Hollywood status and the fact that they have paid a lot of money to have him on the show but who knows.

For me BB is now an entertainment show and should be viewed as such. I have watched every series of BB and anything going on in the recent series pale into insignificance in comparison. No one used to call for OFCOM, bullying etc then and that was a time when we had access to four different cameras of live feed and could ,justifiably, know the real personalities of the housemates.

Jordan. 12-09-2014 09:31 AM

Um no one deserves special treatment because of who they are.

susie q 12-09-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard (Post 7261825)
I'd never even heard of him!

I bet more people in the UK have heard of Dee than Gary!

I like most people wish we had never heard of Dee. Stealing from care homes was just wrong and in my eyes unforgiveable. If she gets a tv series I will not watch it ever.

the truth 12-09-2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 7262235)
Um no one deserves special treatment because of who they are.

what does that mean? what if theyre deaf or disabled or brain damaged or old, anyone with any self respect allows people some time and space and gives patience to someone with any health situation etc empathy too. not patronising people of curse but some empathy respect and understanding
ps theres zero evidence of gary pushing anyone at all...the only claim was alie saying by ricci that gary pushed lauren, lauren said he didnt, end of

as for you mary poppins you claimed youd seen ALL GARY BUESYS MOVIES. now why not save yoruself embarassment and admit thats not true , or do you wish to name and describe each of his 167 performances? .........................thought not

the truth 12-09-2014 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by susie q (Post 7262433)
I like most people wish we had never heard of Dee. Stealing from care homes was just wrong and in my eyes unforgiveable. If she gets a tv series I will not watch it ever.

its the lowest of the low. shows the attitude to vulnerable people too...caring my ass, what a fraudster

Niamh. 12-09-2014 11:32 AM

They're just jealous that he's a genuine star and most of that lot are just Reality "stars"

Liam- 12-09-2014 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7262179)
deniro wouldnt be an ass to anyone, you havent even earned the right to talk about such a legend, the man commands respect , even the biggest scummiest reality tv english twats they could find wouldnt dare say a word out of place to a man who commands the utmost respect. same with meryl streep or many other of our greatest screen thespians. these are rightly the legends of their game, people who have entertained and educated the masses for nigh on 50 years

I have the right to talk about anyone i please tyvm, If someone is an asshole, i don't care what they've done in their career, i will that they're an asshole, no-one demands respect, people earn it.

Jordan. 12-09-2014 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7262451)
what does that mean? what if theyre deaf or disabled or brain damaged or old, anyone with any self respect allows people some time and space and gives patience to someone with any health situation etc empathy too. not patronising people of curse but some empathy respect and understanding
ps theres zero evidence of gary pushing anyone at all...the only claim was alie saying by ricci that gary pushed lauren, lauren said he didnt, end of

as for you mary poppins you claimed youd seen ALL GARY BUESYS MOVIES. now why not save yoruself embarassment and admit thats not true , or do you wish to name and describe each of his 167 performances? .........................thought not

Well you didn't say that, you said not embracing him for being a legend can we not change the topic of the conversation.

the truth 12-09-2014 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7262459)
I have the right to talk about anyone i please tyvm, If someone is an asshole, i don't care what they've done in their career, i will that they're an asshole, no-one demands respect, people earn it.

but you dont say that , james is the biggets asshole ever and you cant even bring youself to say it, gary on the other hand is not an asshole hes a wonderful man

Liam- 12-09-2014 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7262510)
but you dont say that , james is the biggets asshole ever and you cant even bring youself to say it, gary on the other hand is not an asshole hes a wonderful man

It's your opinion that James is an asshole, it's also your opinion that Gary is a wonderful man, they are not my opinions, so that's why i don't say it.

the truth 12-09-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordan. (Post 7262501)
Well you didn't say that, you said not embracing him for being a legend can we not change the topic of the conversation.

wrong. i didnt say embrace him for being a legend. they never even gave the legend time , to have a chance to get to talk to them properly with respect , to listen to each other and enjoy and share stories and experiences. his life and his stories are beyond fascinating. hes a captivating chap , but the petty nasty ignorant jealous impatient greedy bullies coudlnt bare to give him a genuine chance. they wanted to detsroy him from the start. such is their own envy and bitter insecurities. to think of the vile evil bully james, an arrogant abusive scumbag, to try and label gary an arrogant hollywood asshole is a sick joke. they never even gave gary a chance. what a wasted opportunity to learn and grow and connect and communicate with such a remarkable human being, sad losers.

the truth 12-09-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7262519)
It's your opinion that James is an asshole, it's also your opinion that Gary is a wonderful man, they are not my opinions, so that's why i don't say it.

you honestly dont think james is an asshole? please explain why?

Liam- 12-09-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7262523)
you honestly dont think james is an asshole? please explain why?

No i don't think he's an asshole, he might stir stuff up, but i don;t see him as an asshole.
Why? because he's a joker, he has a sense of humour, he's funny, he likes to have a bit of banter with people, granted people might misconstrue that as being horrible, but in my eyes he's just a guy who has a different sense of humour to most people, he does like to stir the pot and wind people up occasionally, like when he was jokingly telling Edele she was rude during her so called 'argument' with Gary in the garden, i find him endearing and a great delight to watch.

the truth 12-09-2014 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7262528)
No i don't think he's an asshole, he might stir stuff up, but i don;t see him as an asshole.
Why? because he's a joker, he has a sense of humour, he's funny, he likes to have a bit of banter with people, granted people might misconstrue that as being horrible, but in my eyes he's just a guy who has a different sense of humour to most people, he does like to stir the pot and wind people up occasionally, like when he was jokingly telling Edele she was rude during her so called 'argument' with Gary in the garden, i find him endearing and a great delight to watch.

its disgusting how the producers and big brother encourages and rewards this revolting abusive bully to continue in such a disgusting manner. such a person should be ostracised from society. hes threatened violence upon a frail 70 year old, hes verbally abused him for weeks, all because of his petty vile jealousy. he takes pleasure in hurting and offending people. theres nothing funny about him or his actions at all. please enlighten me whats funny about any of this? about threatening an old man, about controlling and insulting others, hurting the afflicted, showing no real empathy and compassion, encouring others to follow suit, about group bullying. the endless hypocrisy, the double standards, where he shouts at and demeans people outside his group for stuff people in his group get away with. such as showing your ass for a second like george and others. hes the leats funny twat ive ever had the displeasure to witness. i think people in society supporting the likes of james is part of the reason why bullying is condoned and continues in society in schools, in workplaces in hospitals and care homes etc id love to really understand what it is you find funny about any of this?

poppsywoppsy 12-09-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by delta (Post 7262099)
Oh how the masses are so easily duped.


Pray tell me- what sort of games can they play to influence the out come of any given event or happening in the house?


Also- do tell me how the housemates in there are acting to any given situation in the house that they would act differently outside. { other than having the option to walk away}

This oh {Quote} Team Audley/ Team James - that came from Emma Willis the other night. No it's Team Right against Team Wrong.

This isn't Monoply or It's Knock About it's a game of Life and the games people play. The good and bad traits they have picked up whilst they have been on this earth are put to good use whilst they are incarcerated.

It's laughable when someone traipses out the expression "Oh he/she is playing a massive game" How? Are they using their ace card of being able to go invisible or have they snuck a cell phone in or tablet and have privy to what we are thinking and so adjusting and saying what we would like to think they want to hear?

People adjust their opinions and swap back and forth- take sides to suit their own agenda etc in the outside world. We see the exact same thing in the house. Pacts are made and broken. Friends are forged then lost.

Big Brother is the game of life. To argue that what we see isn't that person or somehow managed to project themselves into something they would never be or do on the outside world is the biggest load of bullsh!t going.

What you see is what you get.

Audley - for the most a very nice guy regular and kind
James- A nasty- vindictive- insecure and jealous- over bearing individual
Dee- Scum of the earth a bully- thief - underhand and cunning.
Edele- Sickly sweet- an image is one thing- reality another. Sly
Ricci- Steady Eddie- young and doesn't really know his own mind.
Lauren- Vacuous- self centred - a bit of a non entity- harmless
George- A set, set of ways and values all the way from Essex. Thinks he speaks for the rest of the country. Deluded little Mama's boy.
Gary- Seems a nice guy- hard to evaluate their claims of rudeness. I think we see enough of him to know that he's been ostracised and picked upon. He tried to adapt to fit in- tried to improve etc and I think in the end has thought - Fcuk you - you don't like me. I won't hate you but I will do it MY WAY. The most interesting and amusing housemate of them by a country mile. I don't think we have scratched the surface with him.

Are this lot so desperate to win ( win what?) that they would treat someone the way they are doing. As brilliant as this one was this year it will also go down as one of the most excruciatingly painful to watch at times.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

What has happened that bullying nasty egotists are lauded over the decent housemates who actually give a damn about other peoples well being and in James case actually brag about it as well.

As nasty as Helen could be, she did try to redeem herself by admitting it and behaving better by the end, James is deliberately being a tool, saying so and reveling in his bullying behaviour.

When he starts slowing down his speaking, it drives me mad, is it because Ola is not from the UK and he is in the habit of speaking like this to her, he says it is because Gary can't hear but more like he is lecturing him in a patronizing way. Detestable man.

poppsywoppsy 12-09-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7262543)
its disgusting how the producers and big brother encourages and rewards this revolting abusive bully to continue in such a disgusting manner. such a person should be ostracised from society. hes threatened violence upon a frail 70 year old, hes verbally abused him for weeks, all because of his petty vile jealousy. he takes pleasure in hurting and offending people. theres nothing funny about him or his actions at all. please enlighten me whats funny about any of this? about threatening an old man, about controlling and insulting others, hurting the afflicted, showing no real empathy and compassion, encouring others to follow suit, about group bullying. the endless hypocrisy, the double standards, where he shouts at and demeans people outside his group for stuff people in his group get away with. such as showing your ass for a second like george and others. hes the leats funny twat ive ever had the displeasure to witness. i think people in society supporting the likes of james is part of the reason why bullying is condoned and continues in society in schools, in workplaces in hospitals and care homes etc id love to really understand what it is you find funny about any of this?

:clap1::clap1:

Liam- 12-09-2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7262543)
its disgusting how the producers and big brother encourages and rewards this revolting abusive bully to continue in such a disgusting manner. such a person should be ostracised from society. hes threatened violence upon a frail 70 year old, hes verbally abused him for weeks, all because of his petty vile jealousy. he takes pleasure in hurting and offending people. theres nothing funny about him or his actions at all. please enlighten me whats funny about any of this? about threatening an old man, about controlling and insulting others, hurting the afflicted, showing no real empathy and compassion, encouring others to follow suit, about group bullying. the endless hypocrisy, the double standards, where he shouts at and demeans people outside his group for stuff people in his group get away with. such as showing your ass for a second like george and others. hes the leats funny twat ive ever had the displeasure to witness. i think people in society supporting the likes of james is part of the reason why bullying is condoned and continues in society in schools, in workplaces in hospitals and care homes etc id love to really understand what it is you find funny about any of this?

Okay take a step back from your keyboard and breath for a second :laugh:

People supporting someone on a tv show that has no relevance to anybodies life whatsoever, is not the reason bullying happens in schools.

He never once threatened violence against a 70 year old, he hasn't 'hurt the afflicted' I don't quite understand where you get that from.

He hasn't encouraged anyone to follow suit about anything, it's not his fault if a lot of people agree with him, he's not a mind bender, controlling peoples mind ffs.

I don;t find any of that funny because i don't see any of that really happening, so don't try and label me as someone who condones and endorses bullying tyvm.

I've stated many, many times why i find James funny, but if you insist on me doing it again, so be it.. his wit, his sarcasm, his ability to have banter with people, his truthfulness, his brutality in which he delivers the truth without a care for what others think of him is also one of the may reasons i admire and support him, is that enough for you? :wavey:

Fosse 12-09-2014 12:40 PM

Dee is a lacuna - there's nothing there.

Tarryn 12-09-2014 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by susie q (Post 7262433)
I like most people wish we had never heard of Dee. Stealing from care homes was just wrong and in my eyes unforgiveable. If she gets a tv series I will not watch it ever.

I've never heard of Dee before this BB, so I know nothing about her.
Stealing from care homes ?..............Tell me more :shocked:

Tip 12-09-2014 12:48 PM

I wish it had been Al Pacino or Robert De Niro!.

No offence to Gary, who's apparently doing the reality show circuit for his charity - but yes, I probably wouldn't exactly have embraced him either seeing as I now switch off the tv when he starts speaking for any length of time.


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