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Jules2 13-09-2014 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesy (Post 7266359)
George kinda had a point with his comment that they weren't in there to be baby sitters. They were all paid to be entertainers for 4 weeks, not take care of an old man. Sure they all need to take care of each other anyway, although the help and assistance needed to live with Gary none of them signed up for. I know I would have gotten annoyed living with Gary when that wasn't stated in my contract.

I blame the producers tbh for allowing a man with mental disabilities into the house.

I blame the HMs for thinking that Gary was below them, they saw a 70 year old with hearing disabilities and assumed he was not all there. They should have all taken each other on face value, helped each other and not segregated one person. Had they exchanged values we could have learnt more, they could still have had fun. I dont suppose that Gary went in there to babysit the stupidity of supposed younger people who didnt know their own minds. Shall we kiss, or wont we, do we like each other or dont we? Mama Dee help me, lets all have a cuddle the old man has said something....arghhhhhhhhhhh pathetic.

Gary had every right to be in there and for me I would love it if we had more entertaining celebrities, real celebrities with solid experiences. No jealousy and no trying to outdo each other. Naturally though it was a game but the egos were disgustingly unbearable. What were they after, after all they received their money it wasnt like that other miserable one we saw. All they had to do was to get along and enjoy the moment. Pee in the pool, drink the water, pull ones trousers down when an older man who should have known better, hits one on the posterior with a towel, very hygenic that was. Jump on mama yuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk....where was the fun in all that?

Tip 13-09-2014 05:49 PM

As Gary's eldest son tweeted, it's a "silly show". In my view it has got sillier as "celebrity" has got more and more meaningless.

We'll see if it returns to something a bit more worthwhile I guess but looking at most of the reality tv shows around I'm not sure I'll hold my breath.

Jules2 13-09-2014 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7266352)
He still did alot for Gary

Yes he made it worse for him and he did it with relish.

Jules2 13-09-2014 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tip (Post 7266397)
As Gary's eldest son tweeted, it's a "silly show". In my view it has got sillier as "celebrity" has got more and more meaningless.

We'll see if it returns to something a bit more worthwhile I guess but looking at most of the reality tv shows around I'm not sure I'll hold my breath.

I saw that Tip and I agree re the word celebrity. I am quite enjoying the fact of going into one link and it leading to another. The chip is a fantastic thing, it gives us a door to the rest of the planet. I havent even watched XFactor yet, there was talk of it being fixed right at the beginning so what is the point. Will look forward to Celebrity Get Me Out of Here I love Ant and Dec and I have to admit that I do not get so involved with the jungle mates.

Patricia4 13-09-2014 06:02 PM

He was nasty and he was the leader when james said something awful about Gary they all laught and made fun of Gary.
Good for his wife to tell him.
The only thing I agree with and that I like a man and women to host the dancing.

Vanessa 13-09-2014 06:05 PM

Look what someone made on facebook! :joker::joker:


icecakes 13-09-2014 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7266424)
Look what someone made on facebook! :joker::joker:


Thats brilliant Vanessa,sums them up perfectly :joker::joker:

bots 13-09-2014 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7266424)
Look what someone made on facebook! :joker::joker:


:laugh::laugh:

Vanessa 13-09-2014 06:50 PM

That group on facebook is hilarious! :laugh3:

Pincho Paxton 13-09-2014 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesy (Post 7266359)
George kinda had a point with his comment that they weren't in there to be baby sitters. They were all paid to be entertainers for 4 weeks, not take care of an old man. Sure they all need to take care of each other anyway, although the help and assistance needed to live with Gary none of them signed up for. I know I would have gotten annoyed living with Gary when that wasn't stated in my contract.

I blame the producers tbh for allowing a man with mental disabilities into the house.

They could be in there to be baby sitters. One year they had a mechanical baby that kept crying all of the time... I think.

Kazanne 13-09-2014 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7266424)
Look what someone made on facebook! :joker::joker:


:joker::joker::joker: Room for another twat on there,George,

the truth 13-09-2014 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 7266134)
Honesty and humour are great characteristic's for any human to have but to use them as a justification for his behaviours is shallow and sad.

RE The Brad Pitt comment he meant it and Gary did him with just four words "Who told you that"......super honk.:laugh:

i know its hilarious gary trumped him effortlessly every time...ultimately gary is a kinder more genuine warm hearted soul, its ironic the hollywood legend was more humble than any of them even the workshy lard ass devious dee
God bless you gary

rusticgal 13-09-2014 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Creggle (Post 7266352)
He still did alot for Gary

So did Audley...he didn't keep harping on about it wanting a ****ing medal though did he?...

Why keep talking about it? Emphasising on Gary's inadequeces... James can't help wanting credit for any little thing rather than being humble and simply doing things out of the kindness of his heart and not seeking adulation for every little nice thing he does for people.

He is constantly seeking approval and gratification because he is a taker...life is all about him. If he gives he wants praise...selfish to the core.

Vanessa 13-09-2014 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7266722)
:joker::joker::joker: Room for another twat on there,George,

:hehe:

Cherie 13-09-2014 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesy (Post 7266359)
George kinda had a point with his comment that they weren't in there to be baby sitters. They were all paid to be entertainers for 4 weeks, not take care of an old man. Sure they all need to take care of each other anyway, although the help and assistance needed to live with Gary none of them signed up for. I know I would have gotten annoyed living with Gary when that wasn't stated in my contract.

I blame the producers tbh for allowing a man with mental disabilities into the house.


:umm2:

poppsywoppsy 13-09-2014 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7266368)
A good thing is a good thing, in my eyes it makes him an even better man for going out of his way to help someone he didn't like tbh.

He did it and then ridiculed Gary in every way possible, he didn't do it selflessly, he did it to show what a good caring person he was and if he had left it at that, he would have been correct.

But he then ridiculed him, lectured him, talked down to him, was horrendously patronizing while telling Gary, He/James was in the right when he was in most peoples view, bullying and being totally the opposite to what he thought he was and no one was falling for his BS.

If he had been what he said, he would have helped Gary and not been as he was, listing


every time he helped Gary and thought he should get kudos for doing it whilst in reality he was bullying an elderly man, consistently and nastily trying every method to get him thrown out of the house.

Audley did it right, he did not fall for James BS, he did not go along with the gang and was always his own person and said what he had to say.

James and Dee are rightfully being damned for their horrendous behaviour towards Gary which continued even into the BBBOTS programme.

I so agree that the put down of the series was when James said he was the Brad Pitt of the dancing world and Gary said, Who told you that.

Simple, deadly and straight to the point, Gary owned James that moment and let's hope James hears it every day for the rest of his self serving life.

GiRTh 13-09-2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7266816)
So did Audley...he didn't keep harping on about it wanting a ****ing medal though did he?...

Why keep talking about it? Emphasising on Gary's inadequeces... James can't help wanting credit for any little thing rather than being humble and simply doing things out of the kindness of his heart and not seeking adulation for every little nice thing he does for people.

He is constantly seeking approval and gratification because he is a taker...life is all about him. If he gives he wants praise...selfish to the core.

:thumbs:

Angelika 13-09-2014 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tip (Post 7266322)
I'll never understand why people would watch this program night after night if they thought bullying was going on - it's one thing to gossip and rant about it on a forum but that's hardly really stopping bullying.

I watched every night to be able to report the bullying to OFCOM. I made numerous complaints and so did other people. I eventully found my way onto this forum to keep the pressure up by making comments about Gary's apalling treatment. I would have stopped watching CBB as soon as Gary was evicted. As it happens Gary won so all my writing on here, and to OFCOM was worthwhile.

Not surprising my email tag line is :
"Our lives begin to end the day we decide to keep silent about things that matter". Martin Luther King Jr.

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Originally Posted by Tip (Post 7266322)
So perhaps the "bullying" wasn't that bad after all?

The bullying was horrendous and very difficult to watch. This CBB has been a wake-up call, it's shown the very worst human traits in action. I am even more convinced now than ever that under the right circumstances seemingly nice people can become evil and lose all inhibitions and resort to very cruel and barbaric behaviour. George Orwell's Animal Farm comes to mind!

Angelika 13-09-2014 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7266722)
:joker::joker::joker: Room for another twat on there,George,

:joker::joker::joker:

By the looks.......there is place for a few more! In stitches just thinking of the bus to Twatsville! :cheer2::hehe:

Vanessa 13-09-2014 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Angelika (Post 7267094)
:joker::joker::joker:

By the looks.......there is place for a few more! In stitches just thinking of the bus to Twatsville! :cheer2::hehe:

Stick all of them on it, except Gary and Audley! :joker:

Angelika 13-09-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamPRW (Post 7266355)
I didn't see anyone else helping Gary into the shower, apart from James and Audley, i didn't see anyone participate in deep conversation with Gary apart from James and Audley, i didn't see any sort of bullying whatsoever, just a group of people who had a justifiable disdain for one person because of their behaviour, James might have bitched and moaned about Gary behind his back, but that doesn't and shouldn't take away from everything he did for Gary, if it was truly bullying, something would have been done about it.

Anything James did was for himself!
He used Gary and then abused him over and over again.

James is a vile and cruel bully who was not pulled up nearly enough by his peers or BB. Every HM in CBB were terrified of James and joined him rather than opposed him on everything in order to have a quiet life. While James was picking on Gary Busey with the tacit support of the other HM's each HM kept their head down and later joined in with James's behaviour. Despicable creeps!

joeysteele 13-09-2014 09:05 PM

He came across as bullying,in that he seemed to be forcing Gary to do things and behave the way James felt he should behave.

It may not have been bullying in the full sense of the word but it was certainly an attempt to control another person and have them conform to what he thought was the right way to behave.

In that whether a form of bullying or not,his attitude to Gary as to near all issues were disrespectful at best but were certainly highly offensive.

Angelika 13-09-2014 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 7267103)
Stick all of them on it, except Gary and Audley! :joker:

That might become a project of mine. I'm OK on Photoshop! :joker:

Patricia4 13-09-2014 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7266722)
:joker::joker::joker: Room for another twat on there,George,

He might be in the boot with Edele keeping out of the way of another twat Stephanie.

Angelika 13-09-2014 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 7267172)
He came across as bullying,in that he seemed to be forcing Gary to do things and behave the way James felt he should behave.

It may not have been bullying in the full sense of the word but it was certainly an attempt to control another person and have them conform to what he thought was the right way to behave.

In that whether a form of bullying or not,his attitude to Gary as to near all issues were disrespectful at best but were certainly highly offensive.

Much of Gary's bumbling behaviour may have been from the constant barrage of abuse and accusations from the HM's. Much of what they accused Gary of was highly exaggerated and unfair, IMO.


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