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Ammi 07-01-2015 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7453983)
I agree.Euthanasia is the easy way out for this animal.He should serve his full sentence.He needs to be punished not have his wishes granted.

..he's human though Paul, he's not an animal..the easy way out surely would have been to accept the parole hearing but he rejected it as he knew he would hurt someone else if released..that's very human..?..he's very ill which is why he did the things he did and feels he will never be better/the illness is something he can't help anymore than you or I could help getting a physical disease so doesn't he deserve to be cared for properly in a clinic even..?...

kirklancaster 07-01-2015 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 7453786)
If he met all the legal criteria for Euthanasia then he shouldn't be refused it unless it's stated in the law that there are exceptions for prisoners. It seems a bit wishy washy and dangerous for the legal system not to stick to it's guns on this issue one way or another.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: Well put.

Northern Monkey 07-01-2015 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 7454013)
..he's human though Paul, he's not an animal..the easy way out surely would have been to accept the parole hearing but he rejected it as he knew he would hurt someone else if released..that's very human..?..he's very ill which is why he did the things he did and feels he will never be better/the illness is something he can't help anymore than you or I could help getting a physical disease so doesn't he deserve to be cared for properly in a clinic even..?...

I think if he is considered mentally ill and a danger to the public he should serve his sentence and either not be granted parole due to being a danger to the public or sectioned and put into a facility that deals with the criminally insane.

Benjamin 07-01-2015 05:37 PM

Bloody Human Rights sticking their oar in again. :bored:

kirklancaster 07-01-2015 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7453436)
Well that's entirely subjective... Maybe the cowards way out is a more attractive prospect than a lifetime of torment based on your murderous past?
Maybe the victims families too would rather he have the chance to reflect, and not have the choice to end his sentence.

You could apply that fuzzy logic to many criminally insane though, he will be controlled with medication. The 'savings to the state' really has no place in an ethical debate either, being purely an economic consideration.

1) Your comments are redundant because I have already covered the points you are making. I always state my case as fully as I can and always expound just why I state what I do, no matter how long such a practice may take me because I believe that serious issues cannot be discussed in a few short comments.

This being so, I have explained my reasons in full why I think he should be allowed to die, and just why I do not believe he is seeking a 'cowards way out'. Read my posts and you'll see.

2) You really should read through your own posts before critising me for 'fuzzy logic".

3) This is not a thread confined specifically to 'ethics'. No one specified so in the original post, and I used the economic factor as just one small part of my case.

kirklancaster 07-01-2015 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Benjamin (Post 7454047)
Bloody Human Rights sticking their oar in again. :bored:

You are most wise Ben. :smug:

armand.kay 07-01-2015 06:16 PM

Tbh I don't care if death is an easier was out they should just let this waste of space die. It will free up space in the prison and no one really wants people like him living.

kirklancaster 07-01-2015 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by armand.kay (Post 7454243)
Tbh I don't care if death is an easier was out they should just let this's as of space die. It will free up space in the prison and no one really wants people like him living.

You are most wise too Armand.Kay, and thank God I'm not feeling so outnumbered now. :laugh:

Livia 07-01-2015 06:35 PM

When you stop behaving like a human you should be prepared to forfeit your Human Rights. Throw him a razor blade and let him get on with it.

kirklancaster 07-01-2015 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7454379)
When you stop behaving like a human you should be prepared to forfeit your Human Rights. Throw him a razor blade and let him get on with it.

My sentiments exactly.

Kizzy 07-01-2015 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 7454109)
1) Your comments are redundant because I have already covered the points you are making. I always state my case as fully as I can and always expound just why I state what I do, no matter how long such a practice may take me because I believe that serious issues cannot be discussed in a few short comments.

This being so, I have explained my reasons in full why I think he should be allowed to die, and just why I do not believe he is seeking a 'cowards way out'. Read my posts and you'll see.

2) You really should read through your own posts before critising me for 'fuzzy logic".

3) This is not a thread confined specifically to 'ethics'. No one specified so in the original post, and I used the economic factor as just one small part of my case.

Hey... let's get this clear I don't care what you consider redundant.

I had my say on the topic and that's it if you don't like it or don't agree I'm not interested.

kirklancaster 07-01-2015 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7454540)
Hey... let's get this clear I don't care what you consider redundant.

I had my say on the topic and that's it if you don't like it or don't agree I'm not interested.

Let's get it straight; you didn't have your say on the topic at all - you had another pop at my say, because it is me who is saying it.

It's the author you have the real issue with not what he has written, but as usual with people who are driven to criticise through personal agendas rather than genuine opposition to what is being stated in the post they are purporting to criticise, you have nothing valid to say, because you either don't read what you're criticising, or read it but don't understand.

You purport to respond to my post because you disagree with it, but when I respond to your response for the same reason, you 'cop out' by stating you're 'not interested.

LMFAO.

Kizzy 07-01-2015 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 7454642)
Let's get it straight; you didn't have your say on the topic at all - you had another pop at my say, because it is me who is saying it.

It's the author you have the real issue with not what he has written, but as usual with people who are driven to criticise through personal agendas rather than genuine opposition to what is being stated in the post they are purporting to criticise, you have nothing valid to say, because you either don't read what you're criticising, or read it but don't understand.

You purport to respond to my post because you disagree with it, but when I respond to your response for the same reason, you 'cop out' by stating you're 'not interested.

LMFAO.

You seem you be taking my stance on this personally... I have no idea why.
I don't have anything against you, I disagree on this is all.
If you don't think I've anything valid to say that's fine, just don't respond to my posts then :shrug:

Nedusa 07-01-2015 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7454379)
When you stop behaving like a human you should be prepared to forfeit your Human Rights. Throw him a razor blade and let him get on with it.

My view exactly

And preferably a recently sharpened cut throat razor.






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