Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7478558)

I agree that it was outdated. The second time he was recalling a situation, word for word and thought if Frank Bruno hadn't minded, it was OK.

I would give him the benefit of the doubt there.

I am of an older generation, I have to correct my mother at times over her references, which were perfectly acceptable in her earlier life and are a no no now.

So many things are different and if you were brought up to think things were right or wrong then, only to find the total reverse is correct today, some older people need to know what is acceptable and need to be informed.

Who knows, many of the things we find acceptable today might not be the case in the future and we will have to modify our thoughts again.

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 7478587)

Well it's outdated because it's now considered racially offensive, kinda silly of him to make out its two different issues

It has a very different history to the other N word though so I don't think they should be treated the same

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7478605)

Does Ken think black people are subhuman, below white people?

No

Are the twitter generation just reacting to a word?

Yes


he is not a racist he just used a word that now people wet their pants about

big, big difference

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 7478638)

...I don't think that his age is any excuse at all, there have been many older housemates on BB and also on other reality shows who have never said the things that Ken has said because they know it's completely disrespectful to do so...

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy (Post 7478670)

I wasnt saying it was an excuse, a reason more like.

The outside world is not all PC at times and he used the word recounting a situation, where it was used and not found unacceptable by Frank Bruno quite some time ago.

Times have changed

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7478750)

its Spanish for black and he didn't call anyone the word it was just used as part of a conversation

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7478750)

its Spanish for black and he didn't call anyone the word it was just used as part of a conversation

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7478614)

He'd been warned about the word so for me I have no sympathy whether he was quoting in the 2nd instance. The fact he's now saying its outdated not racist also tells me that he knew exactly what he was doing and saying all along. I think he's making it worse with this bullshi*t and I'm having less sympathy the more I hear.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7478570)

No she's fully aware of what term he used :laugh:

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7478750)

its Spanish for black and he didn't call anyone the word it was just used as part of a conversation

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7478761)

utter drivel. he wasn't name calling anyone it was merely a word he used within the context of a conversation. try being perfectly pc 24 hours a day, women can say what they like or do what they like as weve seen with denise welch pulling down girls underwear and hitting Michael madsen in the face or chloe biting an old mans ears....

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7478769)

The misogyny is boring.

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7478769)

The misogyny is boring.

Originally Posted by Braden (Post 7478733)

I had this debate with my mum and dad the other day.

We were all shocked by what Ken said, but my mum began to explain how back when she was a child it was perfectly acceptable to use the term 'coloured'. I started arguing that regardless of whether it was okay to use that word in the 70's or now the connotations behind it are exactly the same, and it should never be deemed as an 'acceptable' term.

I feel the same way in this instance. Of course Ken has a point that the word is outdated, but that's because people are becoming more aware of what offends people. The word Ken said offended Alexander in this day of age, and would have offended black people years ago too.

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7478774)

not as boring as the male hate on here and on the show and even moreso on the sexist bbots fiasco.......theres infinitely more sexism against men than women in this show and throughout western society

Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 7478783)

I hope you find some peace in your life. You seem very angry.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7478779)

He has a fair point there actually those tw scenarios happened but were not taken as seriously as the might have been.