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Jose Mourinho 13-01-2015 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Anaesthesia (Post 7480415)
If this is what he is trying to do, he is a complete a**e. I've not seen Loose Women, but if he is deliberately being a twat when he knows better, he deserves all he gets.

Well, its just my analysis from what I have seen taking into consideration many factors. I could be wrong though.

bots 13-01-2015 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7480411)
He has to convince the many people he DID offend, which may not include yourself, may not include others, but noone can deny it includes a LOT of people.

He is 71, he is not likely to be working much now, why does he need to explain anything to anyone. He will have picked up a few more quid from his slot in loose women. Job done.

chuff me dizzy 13-01-2015 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 7480428)
He is 71, he is not likely to be working much now, why does he need to explain anything to anyone. He will have picked up a few more quid from his slot in loose women. Job done.

Exactly

Jose Mourinho 13-01-2015 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 7480428)
He is 71, he is not likely to be working much now, why does he need to explain anything to anyone. He will have picked up a few more quid from his slot in loose women. Job done.

"Job done" You say..at the expense of upsetting millions of people. What a nice man you are. / sarcasm.

Anaesthesia 13-01-2015 07:03 PM

Jose, can I just go off topic and say I love what you're doing with Chelsea.

Jose Mourinho 13-01-2015 07:03 PM

I think the people who defend him are actually closet racists if I am to be brutally honest.

Jose Mourinho 13-01-2015 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Anaesthesia (Post 7480444)
Jose, can I just go off topic and say I love what you're doing with Chelsea.

haha Thank you my friend.

chuff me dizzy 13-01-2015 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7480447)
I think the people who defend him are actually closet racists if I am to be brutally honest.

You are free to think what you like ,I defend his right to think what he likes

Jose Mourinho 13-01-2015 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7480460)
You are free to think what you like ,I defend his right to think what he likes

Noone is saying he is not free to think what he likes.. But when he expresses some of those things that he thinks.. people like myself can interpret that as being racist and get offended by it. Quite simply to understand really.

chuff me dizzy 13-01-2015 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7480482)
Noone is saying he is not free to think what he likes.. But when he expresses some of those things that he thinks.. people like myself can interpret that as being racist and get offended by it. Quite simply to understand really.

Im sure he will sleep well

Jose Mourinho 13-01-2015 07:09 PM

Its kinda like saying we should accept racism because people have a right to believe its ok... sure people have a right to believe anything they want..But we all also have the right to get offended.

Marsh. 13-01-2015 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7480325)
Im closer to the centre than some

The lack of oxygen explains a lot.

Jose Mourinho 13-01-2015 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7480497)
The lack of oxygen explains a lot.

lmfao

Anaesthesia 13-01-2015 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7480482)
Noone is saying he is not free to think what he likes.. But when he expresses some of those things that he thinks.. people like myself can interpret that as being racist and get offended by it. Quite simply to understand really.

I think you hit the nail on the head there. It's not a crime of thought, it is a crime of expression. Anyone can think whatever they like. It's introducing those thoughts publicly *if you are aware you should not do so* that is wrong. (I'm half Arab, and adopted into a white family btw)

Jose Mourinho 13-01-2015 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Anaesthesia (Post 7480519)
I think you hit the nail on the head there. It's not a crime of thought, it is a crime of expression. Anyone can think whatever they like. It's introducing those thoughts publicly *if you aware you should not do so* that is wrong.

Exactly!

chuff me dizzy 13-01-2015 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Anaesthesia (Post 7480519)
I think you hit the nail on the head there. It's not a crime of thought, it is a crime of expression. Anyone can think whatever they like. It's introducing those thoughts publicly *if you aware you should not do so* that is wrong.

So you do not believe in free speech ? you want to be told what you can and cannot say ?

Anaesthesia 13-01-2015 07:16 PM

Come join my thread about free speech, Chuff:
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=269732

Jose Mourinho 13-01-2015 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7480526)
So you do not believe in free speech ? you want to be told what you can and cannot say ?

Free speech is a legal right. However as I have said countless times... People ARE going to get offended... Noone IS TELLING him what to say and what not to say. What I am trying to make you understand is with the things you say, can come consequences.. I respect peoples beliefs up until the point they offend me.

Freedom of speech works two ways does it not? He has a right to be racist, and I have a right to attacke him for it do I not? Freedom of speech remember?

MrWong 13-01-2015 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7480410)
True,as I said the other day i worked in a decorating shop in the late 60s where we sold paint of that colour

Do you use the word negro nowadays?

chuff me dizzy 13-01-2015 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jose Mourinho (Post 7480540)
Free speech is a legal right. However as I have said countless times... People ARE going to get offended... Noone IS TELLING him what to say and what not to say. What I am trying to make you understand is with the things you say, can come consequences.. I respect peoples beliefs up until the point they offend me.

Freedom of speech works two ways does it not? He has a right to be racist, and I have a right to attacke him for it do I not? Freedom of speech remember?

Yes freedom of speech works 2 ways, but you are attacking someone for using his

Jose Mourinho 13-01-2015 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7480550)
Yes freedom of speech works 2 ways, but you are attacking someone for using his

Well thats me simply exercising MY Freedom of speech. Happy now?

Jose Mourinho 13-01-2015 07:21 PM

I hope you have learnt much from this exchange young one.

Cherie 13-01-2015 07:22 PM

He has explained the context in which he used the word. As for the second repetition he was repeating a story one on one with with Cheggers. As for apologising for liking to look at womens arses, I suggest that any man guilty of this henious crime should form an orderly queue at the Loose Women studios and they can manage it from there :hehe:

Pete. 13-01-2015 07:22 PM

Ken loves the attention and front pages tbh

Jose Mourinho 13-01-2015 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 7480565)
He has explained the context in which he used the word. As for the second repetition he was repeating a story one on one with with Cheggers. As for apologising for liking to look at womens arses, I suggest that any man guilty of this henious crime should form an orderly queue at the Loose Women studios and they can manage it from there :hehe:

He should have known better than using that word (With that accent) first time round, he clearly knew what he was doing he is a VERY intelligent man. The second time? Welll should I even be discussing the 2nd time? Yes it was a story.. but a quite horrible one to listen to again.. let's hear what Frank has to say about it.


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