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the truth 26-01-2015 04:14 PM

most of the greatest scientists were Christians. Only a total idiot thinks you cant be a scientist if youre a Christian. the 2 things are separate subjects.

Crimson Dynamo 26-01-2015 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7532147)
most of the greatest scientists were Christians. Only a total idiot thinks you cant be a scientist if youre a Christian. the 2 things are separate subjects.

I think you are referring to a time when most people said they were christians and indeed would not get much funding if they were not but now this is very different. Which current great scientists are church going christians?

T* 26-01-2015 05:11 PM

What a scummy human being

farhad 27-01-2015 10:37 AM

Muslim, Christians and jews, all religious people paved way in the advancement in science, atheist need to go back and read history before they self-proclaim their glorious scientific development lol. The only science they can lay claim to is fairy-tale that is evolution that till today is still called a theory.

Niamh. 27-01-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 7534926)
Muslim, Christians and jews, all religious people paved way in the advancement in science, atheist need to go back and read history before they self-proclaim their glorious scientific development lol. The only science they can lay claim to is fairy-tale that is evolution that till today is still called a theory.

If there is a God, why does he/she want us to follow a load of stupid rules and not just enjoy the life that he/she gave us? Why wouldn't he/she be happy that we're just good people? Would this God send a decent, charitable atheist to hell just because he was an atheist? If so then he sounds like a vain asshole tbqh

farhad 27-01-2015 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7532032)
Yeah..........when it's the choice between something v nothing, I will vote for something that has at least attempted to try and explain how we got here.






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The continuation of terming it as a theory trumps the fairy-tale myth of Darwin's ape-man fetish. almost 200 years gone and still no intermediate fossils have been discovered and no change in terminology, because its a myth that is being dragged for long time to keep their theory alive. Please be my guest and show me the supposed fossil records, till that is put forefront with convincing evidence and not the shambles and deception that was piltown man and 2. Archaeoraptor : “The Dinosaur-Bird Missing Link”. After several fraudulent history, how can we have trust on Darwinist credibility of any piece of evidence they have gathered???

farhad 27-01-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7534943)
If there is a God, why does he/she want us to follow a load of stupid rules and not just enjoy the life that he/she gave us? Why wouldn't he/she be happy that we're just good people? Would this God send a decent, charitable atheist to hell just because he was an atheist? If so then he sounds like a vain asshole tbqh

If god created us and he is the reason we exist then he can put out any rules he wants us to obeys. Rules are advocated for many purposes. Such as adultery, is the cause of many problems in the society that it ruins and psychologically damages anyone who are born without knowing their parent. Is that modest??? sexual promiscuity is many cause of aids and viruses as well as other sexual activities. Aids were not heard of in the ancient time and Our prophet PBUH was the first ever to talk about aids and disease that will kill people who indulge in an endemic sexual activity with many different people.

MTVN 27-01-2015 10:53 AM

Think Professor Farnsworth is able to destroy this Zakir bloke's argument


Niamh. 27-01-2015 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 7534966)
If god created us and he is the reason we exist then he can put out any rules he wants us to obeys. Rules are advocated for many purposes. Such as adultery, is the cause of many problems in the society that it ruins and psychologically damages anyone who are born without knowing their parent. Is that modest??? sexual promiscuity is many cause of aids and viruses as well as other sexual activities. Aids were not heard of in the ancient time and Our prophet PBUH was the first ever to talk about aids and disease that will kill people who indulge in an endemic sexual activity with many different people.

We are not robots though, we were "created" (if you like) with our own minds which we should be able to use. I created two children that doesn't mean that once they're adults and able to think properly for themselves I can still tell them what they can and can't do, does it? :think:

farhad 27-01-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7534978)
We are not robots though, we were "created" (if you like) with our own minds which we should be able to use. I created two children that doesn't mean that once they're adults and able to think properly for themselves I can still tell them what they can and can't do, does it? :think:

You did not create the process that requires to form a new human entity. So its because of our creator we exist and we should thank him alone and no one else. But people are very selfish to thank their existence on the super higher authority. So why should he not send you to hell for abusing the one that created you. Its like neglecting your own children, or children neglecting their parents who raised them.

Niamh. 27-01-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 7534995)
You did not create the process that requires to form a new human entity. So its because of our creator we exist and we should thank him alone and no one else. But people are very selfish to thank their existence on the super higher authority. So why should he not send you to hell for abusing the one that created you. Its like neglecting your own children, or children neglecting their parents who raised them.

So he wants us to be slaves to him then? No thanks, I'll live my life how I want it, if I end up in hell for that so be it :love:

farhad 27-01-2015 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7534997)
So he wants us to be slaves to him then? No thanks, I'll live my life how I want it, if I end up in hell for that so be it :love:

ofcourse since you exist because of him so you should return him with gratitude and obedience, obedience in morality and good deed and behaviour, that's all he expects from us. If being slave is to worship and lead a moral life with good virtue then I'm perfectly happy to be labelled as a slave in that perspective. in reality we're all slaves for other means, I work and by law obliged to pay tax, If I don't I can be fined or face imprisonment.

farhad 27-01-2015 11:16 AM

He gave you a penis and sperms so you can enjoy as well as reproduce ongoing generation, so don't try and take credit for what you have not created.

Niamh. 27-01-2015 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 7535019)
He gave you a penis and sperms so you can enjoy as well as reproduce ongoing generation, so don't try and take credit for what you have not created.

Oh no he didn't :hehe:

Niamh. 27-01-2015 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 7534971)
Think Professor Farnsworth is able to destroy this Zakir bloke's argument


:laugh:

Northern Monkey 27-01-2015 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 7534926)
Muslim, Christians and jews, all religious people paved way in the advancement in science, atheist need to go back and read history before they self-proclaim their glorious scientific development lol. The only science they can lay claim to is fairy-tale that is evolution that till today is still called a theory.

So why did god wipe the dinosaurs out then?Or did he just think feck these big reptilian bastards i'm bored.I think i'll just make some hairless apes instead.Much more fun.Or was it just a failed experiment while he was trying to make humans in his big animal making machine?Why did'nt he just make dinosaurs cleverer?

Northern Monkey 27-01-2015 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7535022)
Oh no he didn't :hehe:

:joker:

Nedusa 27-01-2015 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 7535017)
ofcourse since you exist because of him so you should return him with gratitude and obedience, obedience in morality and good deed and behaviour, that's all he expects from us. If being slave is to worship and lead a moral life with good virtue then I'm perfectly to be labelled as a slave in that perspective. in reality we're all slaves for other means, I work and by law obliged to pay tax, If I don't I can be fined or face imprisonment.

Proof please..............????






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farhad 27-01-2015 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7535265)
Proof please..............????






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best is to just die now and theres your proof:smug:

Nedusa 27-01-2015 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 7535278)
best is to just die now and theres your proof:smug:

So no proof in this life then ??







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farhad 27-01-2015 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by EyeballPaul (Post 7535154)
So why did god wipe the dinosaurs out then?Or did he just think feck these big reptilian bastards i'm bored.I think i'll just make some hairless apes instead.Much more fun.Or was it just a failed experiment while he was trying to make humans in his big animal making machine?Why did'nt he just make dinosaurs cleverer?

Perhaps he could reproduce a better creation out of it with more diversion of species that could carry more useful purpose and thanks to that we have many oil resources. Also things die out or become extinct. Would you want to live in a world full of giant beast or in a diverse environment and habitat? Or maybe you can question him why he made the things differently after you die.

farhad 27-01-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7535290)
So no proof in this life then ??







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find proof then just put it bullet to the head unless your a coward to face your creator now:hehe:

Niamh. 27-01-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 7535307)
find proof then just put it bullet to the head unless your a coward to face your creator now:hehe:

lol it'd be a pretty stupid thing to do if you don't actually believe there is a god, don't you think? :think:

farhad 27-01-2015 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7535311)
lol it'd be a pretty stupid thing to do if you don't actually believe there is a god, don't you think? :think:

More like cowardly, afraid to find out the truth once terminated:laugh:

Niamh. 27-01-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by farhad (Post 7535318)
More like cowardly, afraid to find out the truth once terminated:laugh:

Why would anyone want to end the only life we ever had just to prove some person on the internet wrong (which incidentally is impossible anyway as you'd be dead) You're being silly now :laugh:


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