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Jack The Cat 24-01-2015 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 7523945)
"Race" is a social construct, which is why different countries/cultures may define it differently. Scientifically, there is one race: the human race.

And Perez Hilton. :laugh:

lostalex 24-01-2015 08:02 AM

In America latinos call themselves "brown". It is interesting that Cami called herself white, even though she has stressed her latin heritage a lot on the show. there are many white americans in Puerto Rico (because it is a US territory), so maybe her parents are both white, but because she was born in puerto rico she considers herself latin. but racially, i would assume she was a white chick if i just saw her walking down the street.

SoBig 24-01-2015 08:19 AM

Latino is not a race. Its a linguistic group. There are latinos who are white, mestizo, asian, native, black. You name it and its right there in Latin America.

Vladimir Guerrero
http://i.imgur.com/OpXBdjR.jpg

Alexis Bledel
http://i.imgur.com/RLy84U2.jpg

They are both Latino. Alexis is obviously white and Vladimir is obviously black.

SoBig 24-01-2015 08:20 AM

Perez Hilton is Cuban and you would have to be pretty foolish to say he is not white. :laugh:

SoBig 24-01-2015 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 7524235)
In America latinos call themselves "brown". It is interesting that Cami called herself white, even though she has stressed her latin heritage a lot on the show. there are many white americans in Puerto Rico (because it is a US territory), so maybe her parents are both white, but because she was born in puerto rico she considers herself latin. but racially, i would assume she was a white chick if i just saw her walking down the street.

Cami Li isn't Cuban?

Thought she said she was on opening night.

Ethnic groups in Cuba

64.1% White
26.6% Mulatto / Mestizo
9.3% Black
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Cuba

Lister of Smeg 24-01-2015 09:17 AM

Latino Americans arent really a singular group despite what most would have you believe.
There demographic is broken down into verious categories like White Latinos Black Latinos or Latino other meaning descendents of the indigenous peoples of South America . Cami is definitely white Latino she has a Mediterranean look to her.

waterhog 24-01-2015 09:48 AM

i disbelieve this - there is no live feed.

Amy Jade 24-01-2015 10:05 AM

The person the comment was directed towards wasn't offended in the least but people still feel the need to complain about it, makes me sad really. Some are so easily offended.

Creggle 24-01-2015 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Amy Jade (Post 7524330)
The person the comment was directed towards wasn't offended in the least but people still feel the need to complain about it, makes me sad really. Some are so easily offended.

You're quickly becoming one of my favorite posters this season :worship:

MargeryFan 24-01-2015 11:55 AM

White people are not white, black people are not black - it's all words we use to put people in neat little boxes. If these boxes are to be upheld, then cami li is not white, she is brown or 'latino', the same way obama is 'black'. Get over it.

Crimson Dynamo 24-01-2015 12:37 PM

She looks like a Pikie is alls i know

smudgie 24-01-2015 01:07 PM

If Cami refers to herself as white then so be it, surely it is up to her:shrug:

Crimson Dynamo 24-01-2015 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 7524590)
If Cami refers to herself as white then so be it, surely it is up to her:shrug:

well if Keith says he is black where are you then?

smudgie 24-01-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7524593)
well if Keith says he is black where are you then?

Hardly likely though is it.

Cami is aware of her heritage more than anyone else, therefore she knows best in her situation.

Kizzy 24-01-2015 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 7523604)
She said this to Cami on Live Feed.

I'm afraid for you Michelle that Scientifically Latino people are in fact white, it's just the blistering heat in the Latino countries tan their skin and makes them look darker.

Seriously this woman is so determined to come off as a Liberal that she in fact comes off as the complete opposite.

That's not true, if they lived here they would still be olive skinned.

daniel-lewis-1985 24-01-2015 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 7523656)
And Scientifically them people that you're on about would be wrong.

Another example of people getting offended on a whole other communities behalf.

Michelle was right she is latino.

Cami Li wasn't offended so why are you? Why do you see it as an insult for someone to be called latino over white anyway? Is white the better shade and therefor an insult to be called anything but?

SoBig 24-01-2015 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985 (Post 7524616)
Another example of people getting offended on a whole other communities behalf.

Michelle was right she is latino.

Cami Li wasn't offended so why are you? Why do you see it as an insult for someone to be called latino over white anyway? Is white the better shade and therefor an insult to be called anything but?

Michelle is right that Cami is latino, but her being latino doesn't mean that she isn't white. Latino isn't a race. Its like saying Katie Hopkins is British, not white. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Kizzy 24-01-2015 01:34 PM

http://uk.eonline.com/eol_images/Ent...3655-Sx7UO.gif

Jules2 24-01-2015 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 7523945)
"Race" is a social construct, which is why different countries/cultures may define it differently. Scientifically, there is one race: the human race.

Good one Spoon, I totally agree. It hadnt even crossed my mind to think that the lass was any different than a CBB contestant. At the same time a friendly conversation is just that and obvious facts are debated. Just the art of living
and understanding one another, I guess this is where we learn from each other.

Crimson Dynamo 24-01-2015 02:33 PM

we need to know which race someone isa else how can we hate on the bad ones?

fitz2k2 24-01-2015 02:49 PM

surprise michelle didn't get called up in the diary room or wait if alexander said that u know what happens

sampvt 24-01-2015 02:55 PM

I venture to suggest that some people need to travel to the depths of these countries with their pc ethnic minority book of phrases in hand and see how it pans out. I lived in Mexico and also cuba and if you called a Mexican or Cuban brown, you might be eating your dinner through a straw. lol.

Westerners perceptions of right and wrong are different in the real world. I remember once calling my gardener in Mexico Hispanic and he didn't talk to me for days, he explained that Hispanic was an American word to describe a mexicano. asked if he was regarded as black (he was really dark Mayan) and he said no, blacks are Africans, so they don't even work on PC levels.

Ninastar 24-01-2015 04:35 PM

Whatever she is, she has the most amazing skin tone ever...

Also if Cami wasn't upset by this, why is it such big deal?

Jack_ 24-01-2015 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 7523945)
"Race" is a social construct, which is why different countries/cultures may define it differently. Scientifically, there is one race: the human race.

Is the correct answer :clap1:

Crimson Dynamo 24-01-2015 05:03 PM

Pixie Lotts boyfriend is a Vulcan so what race does he fit in with?


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