The government are running it into the ground because they hate anything nationalised and they have their fat fingers poised over the pie.
I hope you realise the ramification of the demise of the NHS, I think it would be a return to Victorian England.

It would,the loss of the NHS would be a massive disaster for the UK.

However,I do wish it was not a political football.
Although it needs to be this election because yet again after a period of Conservative govt. it needs rescuing,building up and protecting properly.
It needs to be armed with all it needs to deal with and cope as to any crisis and other things thrown at it.

Then when secure,afterwards it needs to be not constantly messed with by govts of whatever party is in power.
A continuity of security and funding for it, with no more unnecessary reorganisations.

Yes there does appear to be a conflict of interest from both sides, I'm not sure how it will play out but I'm putting my faith in Labour to at least attempt to save it :(

Why would you vote for a Party that borrows money with impunity spend spend spends even though it is broke, then plunders the hard earned Pension fund money of Millions of people.

Borrows huge amounts to pay for public spending, christ we are struggling to pay off the interest , let alone the Capital of our National Debt.

We borrow money year in year out to balance the books yet we spend billions on a failing Health service and throw away billions in benefits to keep a proportion of the population in their free accommodation so they can go out and earn a tax free living on the black economy whilst the rest of us poor sods pay up 40% in Income tax.

why would you want a party back that sold off our Gold reserves when the price of Gold was at its lowest in decades ?

Labour are well meaning and are socially just and moral BUT they are fiscally inept borrowing today and hoping someone else will pay it back later.

Oh and the Conservatives are no better but for different reasons.

They are in bed with big Business and the banks and let billions of pounds in corporation Tax remain unpaid.

They sell off our National Companies at a loss and they always find a way to make the rich richer whilst keeping the middle classes convinced they are but one step away from a wealthy lifestyle.

So who do one vote for ? I don't think it really matters as truth is we have no power , no say in how things really work. Good times are always just round the corner, it's a con a scam always has been always will be.

We get enough basically to keep us from taking to the streets (the only place where REAL change will ever happen).






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I think they will this time, they know a lot of them, that Labour could have done much more as to the NHS in 13 years in power,after bringing it back from the brink in 1997.

The media pull him down but Andy Burnham would be a superb Health Minister, he was in the dying months of the last Labout govt.,he tried to have all party inclusion as to talking about the NHS and the social care aspect of it.
The Lib Dems were in those talks, Andrew Lansley and the Conservatives chose not to be.

Jeremy Hunt is just largely and sadly, carrying on Lansley's plans,he is failing the NHS badly in my view.

Really for me the choice is clear,do the voters want this failed govt. to be given 5 more years of more massive cuts,more misery for the weakest and poorest.
A likely,in my view, lowering or even loss of growth again, which happened last time in 2011 when they started their too severe cuts programme with no back up policy for wehn it was failing.

Or do the voters want to try another way, one that will see the deficit planned to be cut but more slowly, meaning you can regulate and amend any austerity cuts that are to be made.
There is nothing wrong with borrowing, if you borroe for the right reasons, were Labour to borrow for construction purposes as to building houses, that would be a good thing.

This govt is still borrowing to cope with the failures of its policies,becasue it is in fact getting less in revenue overall and has not been able to get the savings needed despite the severe cuts.

Then the NHS, it is chaos almost,it is again being brought down and the staff demoralised,that needs uregent help and a more understanding policy across the board, that will never come from the Conservatives.

Finally, will most voters think it right, that the weakest poorest, most vulnerable,sick and disabled,despite a minority probably playing the sytem,overall being demonised and facing cuts and more cuts to their small incomes from benefits, as done by this govt with things like the bedroom charge.
Or, is it right to look for those who maybe are playing the system and getting benefits wrongly while ensuring sensitivity and compassion is kept evident for those whose claims are all genuine.
According to all research that is around 99% of all claimants.

Those are the choices, and Labour is the better party for the changes needed now in my opinion,thats why they get my vote.
One thing is sure, we either get that change or we get the same with this Conservative led govt.no matter who they may have to be in coalition with.

I actually think now, despite the recession and crisis there was in 2008/9 with the Banking chaos across the world really.
I think even in 2010, Labour it seems had the better option.
To nurture the growth and recovery in place in 2010, to make 20% less cuts overall, to strive to halve the deficit over 4 years and make no severe cuts in the first year of power.

Maybe had that been done, the growth in place in 2010, would not have been lost for over 3 years as was the case with this govt.
Also just maybe the suffering to the weakest and poorest could have been minimised and some public services saved too.

It is a simple choice, more of the same of the last disastrous 5 years of failure overall, or a chance to go for a 2nd option that at least has justice,fairness and compassion as to policy included.

"Or do the voters want to try another way, "


No they do not want Ed


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Sadly Joey, from talking to the "Man on the street", it seems that the tories have been pretty effective in convincing average voters that they have "fixed" the economy and that everything is now running smoothly. They've even had Obama banging on about our marvellous recovery and "leading the world". It's all absolute nonsense of course, fiddled figures and trickery, their policies have been abysmal and the country is still firmly on a downward spiral, but I've talked to loads of people who just look baffled and say "but the economy is doing well now isn't it?". It's worrying.

It is fiddled TS, from how the deficit was measured as to the economy in 2010, the fact is as Andrew O Neill pointed out on the Daily Politics 2 or 3 weeks ago, the reduction of the deficit is still only a third from how it was measured in 2010.

This means this govt has not taken a thing off the original setting of the deficit in the last 2 and a half years.

However, they have changed the way the deficit is measured and calculated as to the economy, which 'can' make them say on the 'new' altered format,that they have taken half off the deficit.

I cannot believe people still don't get however, that still amounts to massive failure.
Despite doing all the planned severe austerity cuts,this govt. has still only managed to get at best on massaged figures,half off a deficit they said they would have, and that had to be, cleared completely by 2015.

I am frustrated that Labour figures and other parties too, are not shouting that from the roof tops endlessly.
It amounts to economic failure on that one part of it,on a grand scale.

Whoever said it was right, ''there are lies, damned lies and statistics''.

I still think however the NHS will play the major part in the election, The Lib Dems will want to distance themselves from their part in the disastrous re-organisation that no one voted for,Labour have to keep going on as to it,then there are the Greens, SNP too who will be all pointing out the wrongs of this govt as to the NHS.

In the debates, David Cameron, (if he actually does them), will not be able to fudge his answers and he will have limited time to get his answers done too.
I still hope as they did for Gordon Brown, that he comes out badly from such debates and I expect him too as well.

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