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Stormy 03-02-2015 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mazerunner_888 (Post 7565583)
We have not seen full story. Don't forget Calum called Perez a dick for no reason plus Calum is faking it to win it. Perez saw this and called him out on it. Calum wants to remain on his fake nice guy mode which Perez showed to be fake. That's why he kept using the C word which is sexist.

You're absolutely right...we have not seen the full story. CBB never shows us everything....however...after all this time everyone can see that Calum does not instigate or goad. In fact he's been much "too chill" which is why some posters complain about him. It's taken A LOT of days and effort (by Perez) for him to finally go off on Perez.

Calum has given no indication, in all these days, that he would EVER call Perez a dick for no reason. Can't believe you would even suggest that Calum would do that for no reason. Incredible.

Lolly1210 03-02-2015 09:38 PM

Anyone who thinks Callum won doesn't have the first clue about arguing. To win an argument you have to stay in control and make your opponent lose it.

Vanessa 03-02-2015 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lolly1210 (Post 7565677)
Anyone who thinks Callum won doesn't have the first clue about arguing. To win an argument you have to stay in control and make your opponent lose it.

:clap1:

Stormy 03-02-2015 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Lolly1210 (Post 7565677)
Anyone who thinks Callum won doesn't have the first clue about arguing. To win an argument you have to stay in control and make your opponent lose it.

Yes...losing control is a part of it...and they both argued with raised voices but neither Calum nor Perez lost control. It may seem to you that Calum lost control because he does not usually get into heated arguments. If Calum lost control, he would have been kicked out immediately as he would have hit Perez.

The most important part of winning an argument is making points and having substance. Both of which Calum had, in spades. Perez did not.

Samm 03-02-2015 09:46 PM

Calum

Samm 03-02-2015 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lolly1210 (Post 7565677)
Anyone who thinks Callum won doesn't have the first clue about arguing. To win an argument you have to stay in control and make your opponent lose it.

Perez didn't stay in contol he repeated words and perez didn't win the argument either

Fact incorrect gurl bye

MTVN 03-02-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stormy (Post 7565698)
Yes...losing control is a part of it...and they both argued with raised voices but neither Calum nor Perez lost control. It may seem to you that Calum lost control because he does not usually get into heated arguments. If Calum lost control, he would have been kicked out immediately as he would have hit Perez.

The most important part of winning an argument is making points and having substance. Both of which Calum had, in spades. Perez did not.

Exactly, if he had really lost control he would probably either have got violent or if he would at least have been stumbling over his words, not being able to articulate himself etc. What he was saying was coherent and made complete sense, he's obviously someone who would rather not go off on one like that but Perez pushed it too far and he rose to the challenge comfortably

Lolly1210 03-02-2015 10:17 PM

I know some of you are blinded by your hate of Perez, but if you call someone a c""t several times and you have to be moved away from their vicinity that means you've lost control. Even Calum admitted in the programne several times that he was annoyed with himself for not keeping his proverbials together. Perez won. Story done.

Lolly1210 03-02-2015 10:20 PM

Calum didn't make any salient points. He was just stated the obvious and was enraged that Perez didn't like him.

erinp5 03-02-2015 10:31 PM

Calum saying he is Mr Cool ,likes to keep his life private is a joke .He sold stories a few years back and he calls himself a reality star ,he knows what the score is .


A glamour model who became pregnant with Calum Best’s child, had “an arrangement” with the News of the World to meet celebrities in nightclubs and pass on gossip to the paper, a court heard.


Lorna Hogan said she worked for the Supermodels Agency, which arranged for her to attend nightclubs and bars where celebrities frequented.


In 2005 she met Mr Best, 32, the son of legendary footballer George, and the pair began a brief relationship, which resulted in her falling pregnant and giving birth to a daughter.


Miss Hogan said at the time she was regularly passing information about showbusiness personalities she met to a News of the World journalist called Chris Tate.


She said: “My arrangement was if I was to meet any celebrities it was to get any gossip and to sell it to the newspaper.”





She went on: “I met Calum on numerous occasions over a couple of years and me and Calum Best got together for a short time and I fell pregnant and had a daughter to him.”

Miss Hogan said in 2005 after she became pregnant she was invited to London to meet with Ian Edmondson, the News of the World’s head of news.

She told the court: “I met Ian Edmondson, we had lunch and he put a lot of pressure on me to sell my story and sell the scan picture of my daughter.

At he time they wanted to know what the sex was and they told me not to talk to anyone else.”

Miss Hogan said she did give the News of the World a scan picture of the baby, but said she never received any money for it.

The News of the World later ran a story with the headline: “Best’s First Grandchild.”

After the baby was born she severed ties with the News of the World and began dealing with the Mirror.

Earlier, Calum Best told the court he sold stories to the News of the World about a nightclub liaison with Elizabeth Jagger.

The former model admitted he received £2,000 from the former Sunday tabloid, which published a story about the romp entitled, Calum Confesses.

Mr Best, 32, described himself as a "television personality" who had appeared in programmes such as "Celebrity Love Island".

He admitted that stories in the press about his private life "came with the territory".

He also admitted accepting £3,000 from the paper in December 2005 for a series of interviews he provided about the death of his father.

The jury in the phone hacking trial were told that Mr Best's voicemails were intercepted by Glenn Mulcaire who worked for the News of the World in 2005 and 2006.

Mr Best admitted he and his agents sometimes provided information to journalists on the paper in return for money.

But he denied he had received cash for a story headlined: "Calum: How Dad Drove Me To Drugs."

He said: "That came from a friend of Alex Best, who was my dad's wife."

He added: "It was me saying it to someone who then went on to give it to the newspaper without my approval."

rusticgal 03-02-2015 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LuciaX (Post 7565485)
Perez he's fabulous he doesn't rise just gets under people's skin Calum embarrassed himself screaming like a banshee using the c word and calling him a power-tripper :hehe:


How does that fare with the vile things Perez has said... Calling someone a **** and a power tripper is nothing in comparison...get real.

Stormy 03-02-2015 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7565836)
How does that fare with the vile things Perez has said... Calling someone a **** and a power tripper is nothing in comparison...get real.

:clap1::clap1::clap1:

bots 03-02-2015 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 7565836)
How does that fare with the vile things Perez has said... Calling someone a **** and a power tripper is nothing in comparison...get real.

In the context of this specific argument though, Perez trolled him, Calum bit and lost his cool, Perez didn't say anything outrageous, only that he didn't like him. I really dislike Perez, but he knows how to troll and Calum fell for it

erinp5 03-02-2015 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lolly1210 (Post 7565811)
Calum didn't make any salient points. He was just stated the obvious and was enraged that Perez didn't like him.

and Perez telling him that the Hms don't know much about him!! But Calum claims that's because he is Mr Laidback and private ...since when? .Calum is a professional reality star, and he didn't mind selling stories in the past for cash .

Kazanne 03-02-2015 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lolly1210 (Post 7565677)
Anyone who thinks Callum won doesn't have the first clue about arguing. To win an argument you have to stay in control and make your opponent lose it.

And there is also the fact that it takes a man to walk away,you cant win an argument against a petulant child.

Lolly1210 03-02-2015 10:56 PM

If you can't even win an argument against a child...well.

bots 03-02-2015 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7565859)
And there is also the fact that it takes a man to walk away,you cant win an argument against a petulant child.

i think they have all shown that they are not very good at human interaction. Perez is a troll that should be silenced by reasoned argument, and not falling for his baiting. None of them seem to have the capacity to handle him.

abhorson 03-02-2015 11:14 PM

Great to see the poll tally for Calum.


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