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kirklancaster 16-04-2015 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7703121)
It's not unfair on Mediterranean Countries , just unlucky they are the first Countries that these people encounter.

This is NOT a European problem, this is an African problem these people are African and have no right to ssume they can just all go and live in somebody else's Country.

I am being quite serious now Nedusa - There was a short time when I suspected that YOU were Enza Ferreri.

Kizzy 16-04-2015 11:07 AM

What is illuminating about the plight of these displaced refugees?

Crimson Dynamo 16-04-2015 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7703169)
What is illuminating about the plight of these displaced refugees?

well it illuminates the problem for that wee island off the coast of Sicily for a kick off

Kizzy 16-04-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7703186)
well it illuminates the problem for that wee island off the coast of Sicily for a kick off

Naw... And there's me thinking it was highlighting a serious human rights violation.

Vicky. 16-04-2015 11:23 AM

Honestly, I do believe in general we need to tighten our borders. But for people like this..I really do think ALL EU countries should be doing everything they can to help them. These people aren't coming for benefits, or because our wages are higher than theirs, they genuinely are terrified for theirs and their childrens lives. Its completely different. I heard on the news a few weeks back that the amount of syrian refugees we have taken in was ridiculously low (something like 100 or so IIRC). This is a ****ing disgrace.

Cherie 16-04-2015 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7703041)
This is a sad story, but to be honest no country in Europe can cope with a virtual never ending supply of African migrants who are mostly uneducated and with little or no skills.

They are of no use to these developed European countries and must not be allowed entry.

The EU needs to put into place Euro wide border controls to guard against this.

These potential migrants need to stop thinking they can just relocate to a richer country and all their problems will be solved. They cannot and should strive with help of billions upon billions of pounds of foreign aid to make their own countries prosperous .

They need to stay in their own countries and put their energies into tackling the problems there, not creating more problems for already overstretched European Countries


Whilst I agree with all this,these migrants are not piling into boats willy nilly they are being promised a better life by unscrupulous people and paying to cross in a lot of instances, I agree the waters should be patrolled if nothing else to stop these people from being ripped off.

Cherie 16-04-2015 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 7703191)
Honestly, I do believe in general we need to tighten our borders. But for people like this..I really do think ALL EU countries should be doing everything they can to help them. These people aren't coming for benefits, or because our wages are higher than theirs, they genuinely are terrified for theirs and their childrens lives. Its completely different. I heard on the news a few weeks back that the amount of syrian refugees we have taken in was ridiculously low (something like 100 or so IIRC). This is a ****ing disgrace.

I agree with this as well

Kizzy 16-04-2015 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 7703191)
Honestly, I do believe in general we need to tighten our borders. But for people like this..I really do think ALL EU countries should be doing everything they can to help them. These people aren't coming for benefits, or because our wages are higher than theirs, they genuinely are terrified for theirs and their childrens lives. Its completely different. I heard on the news a few weeks back that the amount of syrian refugees we have taken in was ridiculously low (something like 100 or so IIRC). This is a ****ing disgrace.

Yes, are many not Christians fleeing to a Christian country in fear of persecution?

Crimson Dynamo 16-04-2015 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 7703191)
Honestly, I do believe in general we need to tighten our borders. But for people like this..I really do think ALL EU countries should be doing everything they can to help them. These people aren't coming for benefits, or because our wages are higher than theirs, they genuinely are terrified for theirs and their childrens lives. Its completely different. I heard on the news a few weeks back that the amount of syrian refugees we have taken in was ridiculously low (something like 100 or so IIRC). This is a ****ing disgrace.

The migrants all come from Sub Saharan Africa. There is not much evidence I have seen that they fear for their lives - they are coming because the European streets are paved with gold in their eyes. Its mostly young men.

8,500 migrants had been rescued at sea between Friday and Monday.

One man expecting to leave on Wednesday night from the Egyptian coast, another popular launching pad for smugglers, earlier told the Guardian: “I’m determined to go whether or not there is a rescue operation. I’m risking my life for something bigger, for ambitions bigger than this.”

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...ean-passengers


But the sharp increase is seen as a sign of both the desperation of the people, and the determination of the criminal gangs to ship people to Europe.

At the end of last year people traffickers also began using a new technique – buying a large cargo vessel, filling it with migrants who had paid for the journey, and then setting it on course for Europe and abandoning the ship.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-on-board.html


Stop the criminal gangs that are organising these boats and making top dollar.

arista 16-04-2015 01:16 PM

The EU has failed in stopping them

so send them all to Fecking Germany
they can afford them

Nedusa 16-04-2015 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 7703160)
I am being quite serious now Nedusa - There was a short time when I suspected that YOU were Enza Ferreri.

No I'm far more right wing than her.......lol


:shocked::shocked::shocked:

arista 16-04-2015 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7703169)
What is illuminating about the plight of these displaced refugees?


Yes Isis
got them running to stay alive.


We can not have any


So send them All to Germany

Nedusa 16-04-2015 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 7703191)
Honestly, I do believe in general we need to tighten our borders. But for people like this..I really do think ALL EU countries should be doing everything they can to help them. These people aren't coming for benefits, or because our wages are higher than theirs, they genuinely are terrified for theirs and their childrens lives. Its completely different. I heard on the news a few weeks back that the amount of syrian refugees we have taken in was ridiculously low (something like 100 or so IIRC). This is a ****ing disgrace.

Why are they terrified for their Childrens lives ? what has happened to cause this.

They are economic migrants are they not, not refugees from a war torn Country.

Nedusa 16-04-2015 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 7703219)
Whilst I agree with all this,these migrants are not piling into boats willy nilly they are being promised a better life by unscrupulous people and paying to cross in a lot of instances, I agree the waters should be patrolled if nothing else to stop these people from being ripped off.

Yes, I would agree with that...

kirklancaster 16-04-2015 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7703348)
No I'm far more right wing than her.......lol


:shocked::shocked::shocked:

:joker: Which is why I love ya. :hehe:

MTVN 16-04-2015 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7703355)
Why are they terrified for their Childrens lives ? what has happened to cause this.

They are economic migrants are they not, not refugees from a war torn Country.

Libya's not a war torn country? It's been ravaged by chaos and anarchy ever since Gaddafi's death. Unfortunately that has made it a gold mine for smugglers and a hot bed of extremism where IS have stated their intention to use boats like this to ship fighters into Europe.

kirklancaster 16-04-2015 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7703186)
well it illuminates the problem for that wee island off the coast of Sicily for a kick off

Exactly.

kirklancaster 16-04-2015 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 7703430)
Libya's not a war torn country? It's been ravaged by chaos and anarchy ever since Gaddafi's death. Unfortunately that has made it a gold mine for smugglers and a hot bed of extremism where IS have stated their intention to use boats like this to ship fighters into Europe.

Exactly - and the very real possibility that IS are actually implementing that plan and have been for a while is a real worry. The trouble is - how do we spot them?

Crimson Dynamo 16-04-2015 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 7703430)
Libya's not a war torn country? It's been ravaged by chaos and anarchy ever since Gaddafi's death. Unfortunately that has made it a gold mine for smugglers and a hot bed of extremism where IS have stated their intention to use boats like this to ship fighters into Europe.

they are not from Libya its just the port they use. They are all from Sub Saharan Africa

Kizzy 16-04-2015 03:31 PM

Every man is an island... On this island they are, and the unfortunates can remain on that island.

arista 16-04-2015 04:18 PM

Another 41 Illegal Migrants dead in the water
after small boat sunk.

Ref: Ch5HD news

arista 19-04-2015 08:12 AM

http://news.sky.com/story/1467920/bo...izes-off-libya

[New Boat Carrying 700 Migrants Capsizes Off Libya]

kirklancaster 19-04-2015 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 7703219)
Whilst I agree with all this,these migrants are not piling into boats willy nilly they are being promised a better life by unscrupulous people and paying to cross in a lot of instances, I agree the waters should be patrolled if nothing else to stop these people from being ripped off.

It sounds like the gullible UK populace come every election time.

kirklancaster 19-04-2015 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7708971)
http://news.sky.com/story/1467920/bo...izes-off-libya

[New Boat Carrying 700 Migrants Capsizes Off Libya]

I think from all reports that both capsized boats were heading here:

http://www.enzaferreri.blogspot.co.u...#axzz3XIkAhCi0

Kizzy 19-04-2015 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 7708971)
http://news.sky.com/story/1467920/bo...izes-off-libya

[New Boat Carrying 700 Migrants Capsizes Off Libya]

I'm surprised there's a search and rescue, I thought they scaled down those operations in oct 14?
Since then 1000s have died.


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