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Ammi 18-04-2015 06:23 PM

..sadly a lot of the public who dislike her, also help her thrive in keeping on with her rubbish by giving her the attention she so craves...

Ammi 18-04-2015 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 7707958)
If you don't like her views, don't read them

..and also this..

GiRTh 18-04-2015 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7708097)
its very noble. but its mostly young men aged 18-25 and from sub saharan africa

I have an article that states most immigrants in the UK come from China. How are you sure these are from sub Saharan Africa.?

You said this was a 'problem' if the numbers are low in comparison to immigrants from China then please point out the problem?

Cherie 18-04-2015 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7708097)
its very noble. but its mostly young men aged 18-25 and from sub saharan africa


Ireland has lots of space so why not ship all of them to Ireland?


Arista had a plan

and its a good one

Tell you what let's ship them to your Scottish rural idyll instead, you are very vocal on immigration for someone who lives in the middle of nowhere

Rob! 18-04-2015 09:15 PM

Thing is with her is that she came across as fairly likeable on CBB and if she's liked, it damages the brand and people are less interested. Expect more articles like this. Take what she says with a pinch of salt.

Mystic Mock 18-04-2015 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7707612)
or we could just focus on the real problem which is the migrants that we cant keep out?

I think that bigoted idiots that are trying to insight riots on the streets like Hopkins are a much bigger deal personally.

And the immigrants that you should worry about are third worlders, not other Europeans.

Mystic Mock 18-04-2015 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 7707919)
She's a revolting human being and it makes me sick that she's been given such a platform to spout her bile. These people are human beings and if any of us had the misfortune of being born in the "wrong" side of the world we'd be trying to get somewhere to save ourselves and our families too

Whilst I agree that we all would try to break into other countries if we lived in the wrong side of the world, the UK and France cannot be the only countries in Europe that keep taking them as both countries aren't big enough to cope with that amount of people.

Mystic Mock 18-04-2015 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 7708413)
Thing is with her is that she came across as fairly likeable on CBB and if she's liked, it damages the brand and people are less interested. Expect more articles like this. Take what she says with a pinch of salt.

Hopkins was likeable on CBB?:confused:

bots 18-04-2015 10:47 PM

Never read a KH column, twitter post or whatever, and I'm not going to start now. She is a thoroughly unpleasant person.

People in general get excited about immigration when they see injustices and preferential treatment when compared to non immigrants. No one would give a crap about numbers if that issue was addressed and UKIP would simply disappear with a silent Pffff.

JoshBB 18-04-2015 10:53 PM

Honestly with views like this it really makes me hate England. I love our country but the pure hatred in peoples hearts is a real turn-off.

Northern Monkey 19-04-2015 01:32 AM

Hopkins is awful and i don't read anything she writes unless i see it here.She is best avoided and ignored.Saying things like this does'nt help the immigration issue at all,Infact it does more harm imo because people with genuine concerns about immigration get tarred with the same brush as her.

Kizzy 19-04-2015 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by lily. (Post 7707671)
It's an opinion column. She is entitled to her opinion. You don't have to agree with her. You don't even have to like her. I don't tend to read any of her columns, because she only writes these things for a reaction anyway.

It's an extremeist opinion, I actually used to admire her for voicing her opinion and supported her during BB, until very recently when those opinions took a darker edge.
They're now worming onto breakfast tables and radio, it for me seems to have a very sinister message that is permeating through society that there are certain groupings that are to be considered as less than human, for me that is very dangerous, it goes beyond her voicing an opinion and becomes inciting hatred.

Kizzy 19-04-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 7707975)
..and also this..

I didn't start this thread to discuss whether or not she was right or wrong in what she said... it was to highlight whether or not she should be given a platform to do it, anyone can say whatever they like on twitter and other social media.
But in national newspapers and topical radio shows?
It's akin to the hate preacher inciting hatred, and it's filtering through due to the mainstream media to more and more people... it's becoming impossible to ignore.
Refugees and asylum seekers are already considered undesirable no matter what is happening in their part of the world, we are being conditioned not to care.
Be they other Europeans, Christians, displaced by war, threatened with genocide they're all treated the same with suspicion and contempt.
Suggestions that we turn a blind eye and ignore it are what make me ashamed to be British.

Kizzy 19-04-2015 05:46 PM

A great article on the subject, am I aware I'm talking to myself? Yes.

'It is no joke when people start talking like this. We are not “giving her what she wants” when we make manifest our disgust. It is not a free speech issue. I’m not saying gag her: I’m saying fight her. Articulate the fellowship, the human empathy, that makes these deaths important. Stop talking about how many children were among the dead, as though only children matter. Start talking about everybody’s life as cherishable, irrespective of anything they might produce.'

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...tory-drownings

AnnieK 19-04-2015 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7709553)
A great article on the subject, am I aware I'm talking to myself? Yes.

'It is no joke when people start talking like this. We are not “giving her what she wants” when we make manifest our disgust. It is not a free speech issue. I’m not saying gag her: I’m saying fight her. Articulate the fellowship, the human empathy, that makes these deaths important. Stop talking about how many children were among the dead, as though only children matter. Start talking about everybody’s life as cherishable, irrespective of anything they might produce.'

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...tory-drownings

I've just read the article Kizzy so you're not talking to yourself. I am with you on this, I don't think her "opinions" should be publicised either. They are too extreme and although I still maintain it's an act with her for attention, she is getting worse and it should not be allowed

Helen 28 19-04-2015 06:46 PM

She had her own show on LBC today I listened and couldn't disagree with anything she said.
LBC have said they've had their biggest favourable response to any programme they've ever broadcast today so expect her to become a regular.

Kizzy 19-04-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 7709624)
I've just read the article Kizzy so you're not talking to yourself. I am with you on this, I don't think her "opinions" should be publicised either. They are too extreme and although I still maintain it's an act with her for attention, she is getting worse and it should not be allowed

Thankyou Annie, I didn't listen to her LBC show I will do even though I'm pretty sure I'll regret it :)
The fact her show appears to be popular is a damning indictment of how regressive we're becoming, views like hers on this issue have no place in civilised society as nobody should be considered less than human for merely trying to survive.

Crimson Dynamo 19-04-2015 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Helen 28 (Post 7709692)
She had her own show on LBC today I listened and couldn't disagree with anything she said.
LBC have said they've had their biggest favourable response to any programme they've ever broadcast today so expect her to become a regular.

i am an lbc listener and did not even know about this

:suspect:

i will listen again now

waterhog 19-04-2015 07:45 PM

going to have to dig this out and have a listen.

Helen 28 19-04-2015 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7709886)
i am an lbc listener and did not even know about this

:suspect:

i will listen again now


I don't think you'll be able to for a while as it was a one-off sitting in for Beverley Turner but I bet she'll be back.

Kizzy 19-04-2015 08:00 PM

There's some here, had a listen and the caller is very forthright in telling her that labeling people as cockroaches is dehumanising them.... What does katie do? cuts her off and tells her to 'go read some more guardian newspaper'.
She's a joke that just isn't funny anymore.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-10187792.html

Helen 28 19-04-2015 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7709968)
There's some here, had a listen and the caller is very forthright in telling her that labeling people as cockroaches is dehumanising them.... What does katie do? cuts her off and tells her to 'go read some more guardian newspaper'.
She's a joke that just isn't funny anymore.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-10187792.html

That caller is Diane Abbott.

Kizzy 19-04-2015 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Helen 28 (Post 7709983)
That caller is Diane Abbott.

It's a lady called Ronkey * cue mocking comments*

Helen 28 19-04-2015 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7710000)
It's a lady called Ronkey * cue mocking comments*

Definitely the racist Diane Abbott in disguise..

hijaxers 19-04-2015 08:24 PM

There is an online petition at change.org to have said trout face removed as a columnist on the Sun newspaper (shyte paper - would have thought it was beneath her highness to work there)


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