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joeysteele 09-05-2015 03:19 PM

I say again, zero hours are fine for those who want them,for when it suits them.
Agency work is fine too,as long as people are able to cope on such a situation.
All work is good for gaining experience, contacts and possible, I stress, possible better employment in the future.

What all those people on zero hours contracts should not be however, is included in official full employment figures.

Also anyone who wants full time work really,should not be hogtied by these zero hours contracts of then not being able to do any work for any other company.
Having to be contactable daily,even hourly, just in case someone rings in sick and at short notice they have to go to work that day,or for any other reason the company or business demands them to.

That is in my view ridiculous exploitation.

sampvt 09-05-2015 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7749195)
Zero hour contracts shouldn't be classed as jobs and it's pretty impossible to get 'rich' when people are working all hours and still struggling to make ends meet, do you seriously think there are millions of people in the UK using food banks because they want to?

The vast majority of food bank users are tossers that go there so they can buy more booze and ciggies with the money they save on the weekly shopping bill.

sampvt 09-05-2015 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7749384)
That's so rude, Kizzy. I'm very proud of what I've achieved so please don't make yourself look small by trying to ridicule me.

I thought Kizzy's post was well thought out. Your personal circumstances had nothing to do with her analogy.

Kazanne 09-05-2015 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7749714)
The vast majority of food bank users are tossers that go there so they can buy more booze and ciggies with the money they save on the weekly shopping bill.

There's many a true word said in jest Sam,but what's not funny is ,it's probably true.

Cherie 09-05-2015 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 7749584)

I see, you're in favour of the erosion of workers rights due to a percentage of what you believe are those who exploit them?
If you look at my pretty little graph it shows it isn't only small businesses using these contracts, only 10% of businesses with under 20 employees use 0hr contracts whereas those with over 250 employees employ 50% of their workforce this way.
However menial the work people deserve job security.

No I am not in favour of erosion of workers right :laugh: but it is not as black and white as you paint and there are rights and wrongs on both sides, and the pretty little graph is based on how many businesses in the UK?

Kizzy 09-05-2015 04:10 PM

[QUOTE=Cherie;7749766]
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 7749645)

No I am not in favour of erosion of workers right :laugh: but it is not as black and white as you paint and there are rights and wrongs on both sides, and the pretty little graph is based on how many businesses in the UK?

Ah you can't challenge the information I provide when you provide none except your scurrilous opinion :laugh:

Cherie 09-05-2015 04:46 PM

[QUOTE=Kizzy;7749780]
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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 7749766)

Ah you can't challenge the information I provide when you provide none except your scurrilous opinion :laugh:

:laugh: I do see what you are saying but businesses have so many other options open to them now not least moving parts of their business to other countries where labour is cheaper, so trying to eradicate zero hours contracts is tricky, I agree with Joey that zero hours contracts should not be counted in the "jobs" figures.

letmein 11-05-2015 06:35 AM

The young'uns will experience Thatcher's Britain. Enjoy.

Blog Rider 11-05-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by letmein (Post 7754574)
The young'uns will experience Thatcher's Britain. Enjoy.

Apart from the fact that they not taking the status quota.

the truth 12-05-2015 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by adamski94 (Post 7748447)
This country is now a rich person country poor people will be left destroyed and forgotton

better than new labour where the working people were left destroyed and forgotten and the rest did well

Livia 13-05-2015 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 7749721)
I thought Kizzy's post was well thought out. Your personal circumstances had nothing to do with her analogy.

No one asked you to stir the pot, thanks very much.

Crimson Dynamo 13-05-2015 01:40 PM

i think that if you smoke you should be banned from foodbanks

or is that happening now?

Livia 13-05-2015 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7764387)
i think that if you smoke you should be banned from foodbanks

or is that happening now?

If it's not it should be.


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