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MarkWaldorf 21-01-2007 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by Sophii3x
It's not on S4C yet
I think we are always a week behind

So I will be watching next Sunday

(BTW was there any welsh islanders?)
Don't think so.

Chrizzle 21-01-2007 05:46 PM

Loving it so far.

I'm not sure which group I prefer yet. They both seem really good.:hugesmile:

Chrizzle 21-01-2007 08:00 PM

I loved it. I love Lianne- little rulebreaker:laugh:
Cool that you get to vote this year. When I get credit im gonna vote for Lianne to win Best Islander.

Sophii3x 21-01-2007 08:02 PM

Is it Girls vs Boys?

Chrizzle 21-01-2007 08:38 PM

Yes, but it will turn mixed

GlitterEyes 22-01-2007 07:31 AM

What are your first impressions of each housemate then? Here are mine..

Lorenzo
Seems this years leader of the group, seems fun and determined to win. I think he is the type of guy you wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of.

Stevie
Didn't at all expect a posh accent coming from him based on looks but again he seems a nice guy and up for some fun. Doesn't seem as determined as Lorenzo but happy being his right hand man.

Joe
Should move to the girls island as soon as he can. He doesn't seem to be putting as much effort in as he could and gave up far to easily on the weaving. His picture on the channel 4 site makes me laugh...he is coming across macho showing off his muscles yet on the island he is a wimp so far.

Stuart
Atlast a reality show with some decent totty on, he will go down a treat with the ladies both on and off the show. Seems like he wants to impress the guys and girls...but also seems a little dim...jumping off the boat and nearly getting crushed by it wasn't the best of starts lol.

Will
Seemed the quietest on first impressions of the guys but just got on with things without moaning unlike Joe. Will gives me that "cheeky chap" impression and I imagine he will be alot of fun once settled and will come out of his shell more.

Fiona
Loud, chatty but also very vunerable inside. For someone who says they like to be in charge for me she gave in too easily to Sophia.

Lianne
Stunning looking girl but seems to be led alot by Lucy which isn't a good thing. I think she will be a good character to watch.

Lucy
She is this years "Alana" in my eyes. Very catty, outspoken and shallow. She is very young and has alot to learn...I think she will learn the most from this experience. Her views on black people, britain and obese people are very strong. I find her very hypocritical aswell because the first guy she bonded with happened to be dark skinned....and talked posh. She also mentioned that she wasn't a "tiger for life" when asked by Stevie which made me think she wasnt very determined at all. Her talk about switching camps already made me think not much of her lol.

Sophia
I think she has an innocent look but is far from innocent. Not really sure what I think of her just yet.

Terri
Seems a nice girl so far and determined, her experience will help in making the hut and she isn't scared of hard graft. I think she is better suited with the lads and she would be happier getting stuck in on the hut rather than sunbathing.

Legend 22-01-2007 01:11 PM

I really couldn't stand Lucy, stuck up bitch. I liked Lianne and Terri, especially Lianne. :hugesmile: Sophia and Fiona look like they will provide some good tele.

The gay dude is annoying me too, i can see me wanting to drown him (providing i was actually there) by day 7. He just doesn't seem to want to get stuck into anything. I really haven't got an opinion on the others, i think Stuart is my favourite out of the lads, he just seems i don't really know but anyway. :laugh:

Corkie 22-01-2007 02:43 PM

I've amused by it so far. It's abnormal it being on an evening prime-time I used to ordinarily do my homework and it would be on... eh well.... I shall be revealing to you who I like the finest when I know myself

MarkWaldorf 22-01-2007 02:48 PM

I love Lucy. She's just like me. I have strong belief's on certain things, except of course I have nothing against black people. Obese people are "sometimes" annoying, especially when they moan they're a big weight, when really they shouldn't be eating as much. She's a great person who'll provide a lot of entertainment.

Noopie 22-01-2007 03:41 PM

I HATE Lucy! What an idiot! I can't believe how she can be so outspoken about her racism and how much she hates fat people :mad: I also hate Lorenzo.. pleeease stop calling girls "birds".. it's so.. common. They're human beings not feathered animals!!

But onto people I do like.. Terri! Fiona and Sophia.. even though they hate eachother, and neither of them like Lucy.. lol, confusing. And from the guys Will and Stuart seems nice!

Chrizzle 22-01-2007 03:42 PM

I don't like Lucy either- she'll probably be good islander though, just not a very nice person.

Legend 22-01-2007 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Markus™
I love Lucy. She's just like me. I have strong belief's on certain things, except of course I have nothing against black people. Obese people are "sometimes" annoying, especially when they moan they're a big weight, when really they shouldn't be eating as much. She's a great person who'll provide a lot of entertainment.
I really can't believe i've just read that. Mark, aren't you usually always against the nasty and horrible ones?

Her beliefs aren't justified, as she has said, she hasn't met anyone black people before but still she feels she can comment as she does on them?

I could NEVER 'love' anyone who comes out with comments that she did, she's a narrowminded, stuck up bitch and she doesn't deserve 'fans' just for providing a bit of conflict.

Also, 'fat' or 'obese' people can't always help it. Some of them just can't loose weight no matter how hard they try so therefore they have a right to moan about being big. I'm sure people who have the view that 'they shouldn't moan as they shouldn't eat as much' complain about things, i'm sure you've moaned about being bored - get of your ar$e and do something about it and just about everyday things really. Fat people have something serious to moan about and some fat people are the most lovely people ever.

I found Lucy very offensive and i find people who say that fat people 'shouldn't eat as much' very offensive too as they blatantly don't know reasons for a) why people do eat as much as they do and b) why people can't shift the weight no matter how hard they try.

I can really see Lucy taking over Grace as my most hated reality t.v contestant. It's great to have opinions and beliefs but not when your talking nonsense and not when they're not justified. I could give an example of someone i know who 'shouldn't eat too much' but i'm not going to as it's not something i want to broadcast on a forum but knowing that and knowing so many people around the world are the same, it does annoy me that people come out with crap comments like 'eat less'. :bored:

MarkWaldorf 22-01-2007 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by Legend
Quote:

Originally posted by Markus™
I love Lucy. She's just like me. I have strong belief's on certain things, except of course I have nothing against black people. Obese people are "sometimes" annoying, especially when they moan they're a big weight, when really they shouldn't be eating as much. She's a great person who'll provide a lot of entertainment.
I really can't believe i've just read that. Mark, aren't you usually always against the nasty and horrible ones?

Her beliefs aren't justified, as she has said, she hasn't met anyone black people before but still she feels she can comment as she does on them?

I could NEVER 'love' anyone who comes out with comments that she did, she's a narrowminded, stuck up bitch and she doesn't deserve 'fans' just for providing a bit of conflict.

Also, 'fat' or 'obese' people can't always help it. Some of them just can't loose weight no matter how hard they try so therefore they have a right to moan about being big. I'm sure people who have the view that 'they shouldn't moan as they shouldn't eat as much' complain about things, i'm sure you've moaned about being bored - get of your ar$e and do something about it and just about everyday things really. Fat people have something serious to moan about and some fat people are the most lovely people ever.

I found Lucy very offensive and i find people who say that fat people 'shouldn't eat as much' very offensive too as they blatantly don't know reasons for a) why people do eat as much as they do and b) why people can't shift the weight no matter how hard they try.

I can really see Lucy taking over Grace as my most hated reality t.v contestant. It's great to have opinions and beliefs but not when your talking nonsense and not when they're not justified. I could give an example of someone i know who 'shouldn't eat too much' but i'm not going to as it's not something i want to broadcast on a forum but knowing that and knowing so many people around the world are the same, it does annoy me that people come out with c**p comments like 'eat less'. :bored:
Well tis her prerogative what she"believes" is right and wrong. I don't really believe she's a racist, cause if she was she wouldn't have gone on the show to socialise with "black people" and "obese" people. As you said, it's great to have opinions, which is good, but I do think she has her beliefs justified as she said she knew people who were "obese" and she told them, so she hasn't just randomly said them. I can't comment on the black people opinion, as I missed it, but if she feels what she feels, she's entitled to that opinion.

I said it because it does sometimes annoy me. They'll moan that they're being brought down or bullied about it, which is 100% wrong, but I know people who are a victim of this, and after this bullying they still fill their faces with crap, and yet expect it to stop. Bullies won't stop just bullying someone like that. They'll stop if there's nothing left to insult them on. She has a point there, if they're planning on dieting, they should be told the truth to help encouragen them. Yes, it'll hurt, but the truth hurts. I personally, wouldn't call someone "obese" or "fat" because I felt they need to know, I would keep it to myself. But that's life.

Legend 22-01-2007 06:17 PM

Everyone has a pre-formed opinion on someone/something but to the extent of what she said isn't right and she shouldn't be 'entitled' to have such an opinion on it when she knows nothing about black people.

As for the fat dudes, maybe they 'fill their faces' because of the bullying and for comfort eating. They shouldn't not eat because it might stop the bullying, the bullying shouldn't happen in the first place. It's not down to the bullying scum in school to tell someone their fat, i think they know they are and don't need people 'not liking' them for it.

It's nasty and Lucy is nasty and very narrowminded, there is no two ways about it.

MarkWaldorf 22-01-2007 06:35 PM

I can understand how people think that her opinions are nasty, I see that. But there's a lot of people in Britain who have the same opinions, stuff like immagration and all that shizz. Maybe it's just her belief on how Britain's being run?

Fat people, well. I know someone, who can be seen as fat. Even though I hate the word, I wouldn't consider him obese. Anyway, he's a victim of verbal bullying, always being called fat, being taken the mick of. For that reason, he doesn't eat that much anymore. He may think not eating will help it, but it's not. It's just gonna ruin his body. I also know another guy, who is ALWAYS bullied because of it. He's a person, who no matter where, he'll always try to eat food. He doesn't understand that he has to stop, if he want's this bullying to.

Noopie 23-01-2007 04:15 PM

The worst thing she said in my opinion was when she said she wished black slavery would come back :shocked: Wow, now that's low!

Oh btw, I missed the last 10 minutes, what was the "punishment".. was it that someone had to switch islands like last year or something :conf: because Lucy said she'd love to switch islands so that would hardly be a punishment, lol.

MarkWaldorf 23-01-2007 04:33 PM

I think it was they couldn't go to the next beach party.

GlitterEyes 24-01-2007 11:00 AM

Yeah couldn't go the next party...therefore for Lucy she doesn't get the chance to swop islands as it looked like she wanted to. I think Lucy has alot to learn and I would be suprised if her views stayed the same by the end of shipwrecked. I think once she has met gays and black people she will begin to think her views at the start were pathetic. Not that likely she will change her views on obese people as its not the likely contestant they will have on the island..well not to the extreme anyhow.

Sophii3x 26-01-2007 05:49 PM

I'll be watching tomorrow morning on S4C
Can't wait!

MarkWaldorf 26-01-2007 07:04 PM

Are you watching the first episode, Sophie?

Sophii3x 26-01-2007 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by Markus™
Are you watching the first episode, Sophie?
Yep!
I haven't watched it yet.. S4C sucks your all a week ahead of me:sad:

MarkWaldorf 27-01-2007 01:12 PM

:hugesmile:How was it?

GlitterEyes 05-02-2007 04:25 PM

Is Fiona growing on anyone? She is growing on me. Anyone still watching? Lol...

ttw 06-02-2007 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Markus™
Quote:

Originally posted by Legend
Quote:

Originally posted by Markus™
I love Lucy. She's just like me. I have strong belief's on certain things, except of course I have nothing against black people. Obese people are "sometimes" annoying, especially when they moan they're a big weight, when really they shouldn't be eating as much. She's a great person who'll provide a lot of entertainment.
I really can't believe i've just read that. Mark, aren't you usually always against the nasty and horrible ones?

Her beliefs aren't justified, as she has said, she hasn't met anyone black people before but still she feels she can comment as she does on them?

Icould NEVER 'love' anyone who comes out with comments that she did, she's a narrowminded, stuck up bitch and she doesn't deserve 'fans' just for providing a bit of conflict.

Also, 'fat' or 'obese' people can't always help it. Some of them just can't loose weight no matter how hard they try so therefore they have a right to moan about being big. I'm sure people who have the view that 'they shouldn't moan as they shouldn't eat as much' complain about things, i'm sure you've moaned about being bored - get of your ar$e and do something about it and just about everyday things really. Fat people have something serious to moan about and some fat people are the most lovely people ever.

I found Lucy very offensive and i find people who say that fat people 'shouldn't eat as much' very offensive too as they blatantly don't know reasons for a) why people do eat as much as they do and b) why people can't shift the weight no matter how hard they try.

I can really see Lucy taking over Grace as my most hated reality t.v contestant. It's great to have opinions and beliefs but not when your talking nonsense and not when they're not justified. I could give an example of someone i know who 'shouldn't eat too much' but i'm not going to as it's not something i want to broadcast on a forum but knowing that and knowing so many people around the world are the same, it does annoy me that people come out with c**p comments like 'eat less'. :bored:
Well tis her prerogative what she"believes" is right and wrong. I don't really believe she's a racist, cause if she was she wouldn't have gone on the show to socialise with "black people" and "obese" people. As you said, it's great to have opinions, which is good, but I do think she has her beliefs justified as she said she knew people who were "obese" and she told them, so she hasn't just randomly said them. I can't comment on the black people opinion, as I missed it, but if she feels what she feels, she's entitled to that opinion.

I said it because it does sometimes annoy me. They'll moan that they're being brought down or bullied about it, which is 100% wrong, but I know people who are a victim of this, and after this bullying they still fill their faces with c**p, and yet expect it to stop. Bullies won't stop just bullying someone like that. They'll stop if there's nothing left to insult them on. She has a point there, if they're planning on dieting, they should be told the truth to help encouragen them. Yes, it'll hurt, but the truth hurts. I personally, wouldn't call someone "obese" or "fat" because I felt they need to know, I would keep it to myself. But that's life.
I honestly cannot believe I just read that, there is no justification or entitlement for believing black people should be slaves,IT IS DISGUSTING!!!No she is not entitled to that opinion, if I was on the island I would have drowned her - it's because of people like her, that have (mostly inherited) all this money get the good jobs that there is such discrimination in this world.

What could possess such a person to believe non-whites should be slaves, what? How can that be justified?

AND, she said herself she is racist... so believe it.

I wouldn't wish any body of any race to be a slave.

Your comment on obese people is totally ignorant aswell just as hers is..
Yes it is a major problem today, but it is not merely a case of 'eat less' ... alot of children that are obese are brought up with parents that feed them crap...
it is like telling someone with serious behavioural problems 'oh just be nice' the problems run deeper then that...

Lucy is a disgusting person, I understand she was brought up in a boarding school and has never come into contact with a black person, but her statement is beyond just stereotyping and generalisation(which is bad enough), she actaually believes they should be slaves....

And this girl went to a boarding school... What exactly are they teaching in these schools to produce people like her.

ttw 06-02-2007 01:46 PM

Apart from THAT ^^

I don't like Lorenzo - too controlling and wierd
I am pretty indifferent to the rest of the boys on the island
I agree, Joe needs to move to the girls island

Most of the girls seem alright, apart from Lucy, and Fiona gets on my nerves abit.


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