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just thinkin 10-07-2015 10:16 PM

Sorry..last minute packing..and trying to type is not great

Marsh. 10-07-2015 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by just thinkin (Post 7986584)
Marsh..by them picking colours it gave them a chance to pick the question accordingly...if the had plain envelopes...asked the question and had them open the plain envelopes that wud have been fair..once the picked tge coloured ones they needent have even bothered openong then as the producers knew what was in tgem before they opened them at all....cant you see that. .gave tgem a chance to pick tge apropriate question and bought them time

Except they did have them open them.

My point is they didn't need them to be colour coded as they revealed their amounts before the question either way.

Ashley. 10-07-2015 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7986716)
Except they did have them open them.

My point is they didn't need them to be colour coded as they revealed their amounts before the question either way.

This. Colour coded or not, Big Brother took the chance to manipulate and they did.

just thinkin 10-07-2015 10:21 PM

Marsh..I give up...if you don't get it..you don't get it....

Marsh. 10-07-2015 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by just thinkin (Post 7986741)
Marsh..I give up...if you don't get it..you don't get it....

I do get it. You don't seem to be understanding what I am saying.

Marsh. 10-07-2015 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AshRley (Post 7986728)
This. Colour coded or not, Big Brother took the chance to manipulate and they did.

:clap1:

MartianMark 10-07-2015 11:35 PM

This is live television. The folks in charge didn't have time to dick around after they opened the envelope to figure out how things needed to unfold.

I would assume they were color coded to ensure they had the maximum amount of time between the choosing of the envelopes and then posing the right question.

But I agree, there was absolutely no reason to have them color coded at all other than to buy some more time being that this was all live.

RodHull 10-07-2015 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by just thinkin (Post 7986741)
Marsh..I give up...if you don't get it..you don't get it....

They didnt need to dick with the question... it was just a shrouded way to evict sam regardless. The rest was all glitter and stage magic style misdirection to distract from the fact the producers just basically evicted a HM live on tv without public vote

Marsh. 10-07-2015 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MartianMark (Post 7987270)
This is live television. The folks in charge didn't have time to dick around after they opened the envelope to figure out how things needed to unfold.

I would assume they were color coded to ensure they had the maximum amount of time between the choosing of the envelopes and then posing the right question.

But I agree, there was absolutely no reason to have them color coded at all other than to buy some more time being that this was all live.

But, again, there's no need to "dick around" at all if they had two questions ready for two different scenarios.

If they needed to "dick around" then obviously they weren't very well prepared, which then begs the question of why they'd bother with coloured envelopes if they're so sodding useless.

BENDERBOY 10-07-2015 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 7986191)
I have no doubts that if Chloe/Jack were chosen to go (never going to happen...even if they had the highest..) there would have been a further twist where they got the chance to snatch the entire prize fund. To advertise this as something that would rock the house or whatever was a ****ing joke.

I know it was a feeble twist, Emma gets more and more banal every week.

camertone 11-07-2015 01:01 AM

blatant fix, if chloe and jack got 15k envelope, if they may get evicted and then bb will say they can keep that money. since it's sam, it's nada from bb.

M X 11-07-2015 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7986477)
BUT they opened the envelopes BEFORE anyway therefore a colour code would not be needed in this conspiracy theory.

I think you are missing the point.

Marsh. 11-07-2015 01:28 AM

Hello brick wall, nice to see you.

Marsh. 11-07-2015 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by M X (Post 7987765)
I think you are missing the point.

I haven't but thanks for the input.

qwerty42 11-07-2015 01:32 AM

its all for danny to win. Evryone trying to make him famous.

M X 11-07-2015 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7987819)
I haven't but thanks for the input.

Haha you've still missed the point even if you want to be rude about it.

It doesn't matter if they opened the envelopes before Big Brother revealed the twist, the producers still saw which housemate had which amount through which colour envelope they chose which means they could pick and chose which scenario they wanted to go with in order to get the result they wanted.

It's not complicated at all - basically it just means that it's likely they had three different questions for three different scenarios.

RichardG 11-07-2015 01:47 AM

Marsh is right, I don't see what the problem is here. It doesn't matter what colour the envelopes are, the housemates opened them and read their amounts before BB announced the twist. So, even if all envelopes were the same colour, BB still had enough time to look at the amount of money that each hm read about and THEN decide to alter the question they would ask to suit their agenda - that is if you believe the conspiracy theory anyway, which I don't. Emma had been saying all night the twist would leave one hm "without any money" or w/e. It would've looked well odd if they changed the twist last minute to being one of GIVING a housemate money instead.

M X 11-07-2015 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RichardG (Post 7987924)
Marsh is right, I don't see what the problem is here. It doesn't matter what colour the envelopes are, the housemates opened them and read their amounts before BB announced the twist. So, even if all envelopes were the same colour, BB still had enough time to look at the amounts each read about and THEN decide to alter the question they would ask - that is if you believe the conspiracy theory anyway, which I don't. Emma had been saying all night the twist would leave one hm "without any money" or w/e. It would've looked well odd if they changed the twist last minute to being one of GIVING a housemate money instead.

You've just contradicted yourself.

The whole point that we are making is that they could change the question based on what colour they picked. It literally makes no difference that the envelopes had already been opened when the twist was read into the house.

Nobody is saying that they would have changed it into giving a housemate money instead.

NotARylanFan 11-07-2015 01:57 AM

The different colours were probably used to give production a little extra time just to confirm 100% what question they would ask to have Sam evicted.

RichardG 11-07-2015 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by M X (Post 7987966)
You've just contradicted yourself.

The whole point that we are making is that they could change the question based on what colour they picked. It literally makes no difference that the envelopes had already been opened when the twist was read into the house.

Nobody is saying that they would have changed it into giving a housemate money instead.

How did I contradict myself??

Whatever people think the alternative questions or scenarios are that they could've asked doesn't matter, I was just assuming there that people thought the alternative scenario would be that they would 'give' money to their favourites rather than 'evict' their least favourite based on the post I just read beforehand by camertone above, not the point I was making.

I still don't see what the problem is though?? Unless I'm delirious from being awake at 3am and totally missing the point of the thread, people seem to be suggesting that the fact the envelopes were three different colours means the producers knew what amount was in each one, and so they could alter the question they ask accordingly depending on which housemate picks up which one to suit their needs based on who they want evicted.

However, they still only asked the question after they opened up the envelopes, so even if all three envelopes were the same colours, the producers had time to see what amount each housemate picked up when they opened them up and read them out, and then they could still alter the question accordingly just as they would have done earlier if the colours were different. The only difference is that they have to wait an extra 30 seconds to see who picked what and therefore have a tiny bit less time to check their list of questions to see which is most appropriate, but I can't see how that would be a significant problem cause they could only have a maximum of two anyway.

Marsh. 11-07-2015 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by M X (Post 7987847)
Haha you've still missed the point even if you want to be rude about it.

It doesn't matter if they opened the envelopes before Big Brother revealed the twist, the producers still saw which housemate had which amount through which colour envelope they chose which means they could pick and chose which scenario they wanted to go with in order to get the result they wanted.

It's not complicated at all - basically it just means that it's likely they had three different questions for three different scenarios.

Yes, I got that but the point I was making with my posts clearly went over your head.

Marsh. 11-07-2015 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RichardG (Post 7988041)
How did I contradict myself??

Whatever people think the alternative questions or scenarios are that they could've asked doesn't matter, I was just assuming there that people thought they would 'give' money to their favourites, not the point I was making. I still don't see what the problem is though?? Unless I'm delirious from being awake at 3am and totally missing the point of the thread, people seem to be suggesting that the fact the envelopes were three different colours means the producers knew what amount was in each one, and so they could alter the question they ask accordingly depending on which housemate picks up which one to suit their needs based on who they want evicted.

However, they still only asked the question after they opened up the envelopes, so even if all three envelopes were the same colours, the producers had time to see what amount each housemate picked up, and then alter the question accordingly just as they would have done earlier if the colours were the same. The only difference is that they have to wait an extra 30 seconds to see who picked what and therefore have a tiny bit less time to check their list of questions to see which is most appropriate, but I can't see how that would be a significant problem cause they could only have a maximum of three anyway.

It's nice to have someone else who can process what I've tried to say in the thread.

*high five*

Rob! 11-07-2015 02:07 AM

Coloured envelopes =fix.

That's a new one.

M X 11-07-2015 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 7988043)
Yes, I got that but the point I was making with my posts clearly went over your head.

Nope, I understand what you said and the same goes for RichardG.

I just don't agree with it. I do think you are missing the point, but hey ho. :)

Marsh. 11-07-2015 02:27 AM

MY GOD!

What point have I missed?


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