He's not as mature as he thinks he is but he's far more mature than those trashing him here.

Funny, his questioning and reasoning skills don't bother me at all.
Everyone else's stupidity and lack of comprehension is far more disturbing.

Hes a spoilt boy.

Thats not his fault.

As he grows up, if he continues in politics Im sure he will a be a spin maker and a PR machine - which he already is

He "presents" himself - rather than naturally interact with anyone - ever! A PR machine nothing more going on at all.

It amazes me he has ANY support at all

Somebody just said it. He is a spin machine. And normally, what do the GBP think of spin merchants. They are derided.

I think by going into the BB house Joel has scuppered any slight chance he may have had of ever becoming a 'real' politician!
He'll never be taken seriously in the World of Politics after this. Even if he tries to work his way up from a local councillor people will always see him as that precocious kid who went on Big Brother and didn't know which part of a chicken the eggs come out of!!!!:facepalm:

Even if he can get past that any potential political opponents will whip their iPads out and pull up a clip of Joel dancing around in a mini-skirt and skintight gold jacket and he'll be done!!! :laugh:

His bloody pushy mother can probably take all the credit for this bad decision!

Aaron's dick waving at Joel's butt has finished his chances. It will forever be played. Not Joel's fault, But it was Joel's gamble.

His trying to play to the new wave of BB viewers that are now sadly the majority as it's making for boring BB's, and in a different way to Ch4 it's also making for boring winners as these right wing prodigies just keep going onto win every year just to spout off their agenda.

I have nothing against right wing contestants, I've even supported some of them in the past, it's just that I'd rather BB go back to being a left wing show again as it suits it's format a lot more than this does.

Let's see him getting accused of being a 40 year old on the Internet.:joker:

I do agree with you that I hate a house full of thickos, but isn't that just BB for you nowadays? I know that most of the Ch4 lot weren't exactly Mensa, but they could hold 3D conversations, and when in an argument it wasn't constantly just telling the other person to shut up.

Helen winning last year. Was that the Raving Monster Looney Party voters. Left or right?:laugh:

Helen's win was like a more entertaining take on the right wing agenda compared to Joel this year.

The main things that helped Helen win though was that Ashleigh was a pretty blonde, and that some of her supporters (no offense) was unique to everybody else which Ch5 played on.

Sounds more like a left wing lunacy to me with Helen winning. A fight against the normal.

Joel is a good communicator, that doesn't make him intelligent. I've not seen any evidence of an outstanding intellect, he is just a bit quicker off the blocks than the rest of them.

Its one of the reasons I think this BB has been the worst. The intelligence level of them is so low that they are completely one dimensional characters. When discussions revolve around does he/she fancy me etc, you know its not going to be a vintage year, and that has proven to be correct as this series has progressed. It was a terrible choice of cast by the producers.

You see Ashleigh as more normal, but Ch5 don't want normal and they never will.

I mean just look at the people that they've billed as big characters in this series? Not one of them is normal.

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Although Nick is a smart cookie. He just wants to avoid EVERY single confrontation. Cristian is smart too but does not use his intelligence well in arguments. Jack next the Chloe and Danny as the two who are as thick as pig ****.

More a fight against the system. Very left wing.

The intelligent Housemates of this series are/were.

Joel (for targeting the main demographic)
Jack
Nick
Chloe
Cristian
Aaron
Kieran
Harriet
Simon
Marc (the most intelligent of the series imo)

You could see it like that I suppose.

I doubt Ch5 would want to though.:joker:

Hate is a very strong word

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He's the best one in there right now, and he's definitely not spineless. He's the only one that has the balls to stand up to Danny.

Christian didn't know what insecure meant? Isn't he doing psychology at Uni?

I just find him boring he has not varied his behaviour at all, his reactions to situations doesnt vary which has made him predictable, therefore dull.

Well said,he is indeed.