you say supportive, I say pushy :hee: She just annoys me I can't say why exactly, the other family and friends were just seem more normal, I suppose because she bangs on about his slut dropping (yawn) and keeps a book of his one liners (?) she just seems to be one of these helicopter Mums constantly hovering over him directing!

joel hadn't heard of BB, his Mum is a BB fan and suggested he enter it. I can't stand Joel, he is an obnoxious prick, oh .. and his Mum has been on this forum :laugh:

:laugh: Perfect I feel the same way about him:clap2:

I don't think a Mother not in the show should have any bearing on his winning or losing.

He is the one who has done all these weeks in there along with the others,for me, he would be a really good winner to have, he doesn't fire filthy bad language at others and has not even attempted any sort of false showmance.

He also,as to his friendship with Cristian,has been close to Cristian right from the almost the start of the series, they have been close friends from very quickly on and that is another good things about them both,that despite not agreeing at times they still hold on to that friendship all through the series.

I see little wrong with Joel at all really, there are far worse in there with greedy Chloe, control freak Danny, and Nick too with his desperation of having some involvement of a showmance near all through the series.
For me, Joel, Cristian and now Jack are the best in there and if Joel cannot win, then a win for either Cristian or Jack in that case would have me content.

I agree with the much worse potential winners list, just my preferred winner is a bit different (Jack). I have an awful feeling that there will be a complete forum melt down tonight though :worry:

So true :worship::worship:

That doesn't surprise me,if he does go into politics ,his opponent will have a field throwing up some of things he has done in there,he won't get my vote, most of the people here in wales I have spoken feel the same way, don't think he will get the Welsh vote,if he wins ?? Maybe the English will keep him:joker:

A vote for joel is.. as useful as leaving a biccy in tea so long it goes soggy and floats down into the mug! DREADFUL!

Joel should be judged on Joel not on his mother. In my opinion he is the most honest level headed young man. A true winner. Yes is mother is mutton dressed as lamb. However Joel has been a great housemate

:joker: Vanessa,you 're a cougar,what happened to Luke Friend,Andrea Faustini,Dexter and several others along the way.

A vote for Joel is a vote for the right winner :love:

That's a good way to sum it all up Liam.

Joel is quite possibly the worst one in there, devious and self obsessed.

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We've clearly been watching different shows. To say that above Danny is laughable. :laugh:

Has she what is her user name?

i've forgotten, she was in a "discussion" with chuff :laugh:

Joel needs to win. When he leaves he needs to slut drop his way out of the house with Drop it like its hot playing in the background

:joker:

A win for Joel would be the worst possible outcome but would accurately represent the current abysmal state the show is in!!!:shrug:

JOEL is;
A 19 year-old Tory-Boy who hadn't watched an hour of Big Brother in his life and only went on the show because his mother nagged him until he applied and who has said several times during his time in the house that he really doesn't even need the money!

What a fantastic winner that would make..............:facepalm:

Exactly.