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arista 18-07-2015 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 8010746)
I hope this topples the Sun too because they're talk about how they obtained this footage/if they doctored it or not


Its all Legal
other Royal members had copys


The Sun is selling extra papers today

Iceman 18-07-2015 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petemitch (Post 8010746)
I hope this topples the Sun too because they're talk about how they obtained this footage/if they doctored it or not

What's this talk of doctoring it??

Crimson Dynamo 18-07-2015 12:12 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...7175439895.jpg


The England football team in 1938 !

bots 18-07-2015 12:35 PM

Context is everything. Also, isn't hindsight a wonderful thing.

Crimson Dynamo 18-07-2015 12:51 PM

They are trying to judge a 7 year old girl in 1933 by 2015 standards

arista 18-07-2015 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8010824)
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...7175439895.jpg


The England football team in 1938 !



Yes Salute the Leader
also in the 1936 Berlin Olympics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_Summer_Olympics
A great time when Black American Jesse Owens
beat the Nazi Tough runners

Upsetting Hitler

arista 18-07-2015 12:55 PM

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...sse_Owens3.jpg
Better than Super Tough Nazi Runners

Utter Bliss

arista 18-07-2015 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8010862)
They are trying to judge a 7 year old girl in 1933 by 2015 standards


Its like Monty Python of that early Nazi time.


Ref: SkyNewsHD

Pete. 18-07-2015 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8010865)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...sse_Owens3.jpg
Better than Super Tough Nazi Runners

Utter Bliss

<3

Tom4784 18-07-2015 02:15 PM

It's a non-story.

It was a few years before WW2 happened and, at that point of time, they were just referencing a gesture from a foreign government. It's silly and misleading to drag it up now but then again I'd never expect competent journalism or common sense from The Sun.

Crimson Dynamo 18-07-2015 03:21 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...7220713734.jpg

:omgno:

THEY ARE ALL AT IT NOW

joeysteele 18-07-2015 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 8010669)
"Sun being the"

No Joey
I noticed more younger women Buying the Sun this morning.



Its Educational
Its a Fact
and
Its on FoxNewsHD , Iran News, CBS News , MSNBC News



Its Our Sun
Embrace It

I know of at least 12 people who buy the Sun on a Saturday arista, who take it home, take out the TV mag section and the Sun is then left unread and goes into the re-cycling bin.
The re-cycling bin,in fact,being the only decent thing about it too.

It will never be my Sun, I wouldn't even touch it, let alone buy it or read it.

Crimson Dynamo 18-07-2015 03:22 PM

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/...20131124145031


I can see Sweep but Sooty as well ??

Crimson Dynamo 18-07-2015 03:23 PM

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...b_1376255i.jpg

Ninastar 18-07-2015 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8011024)

now we know who is leading isis!!!!!!!

MTVN 18-07-2015 09:56 PM

If a country has a royal family imposed on them then it is of historical interest that a King of known Nazi sympathies liked to encourage his daughters to give Nazi salutes on film as part of a great afternoon of family frolicking. Yes no one could have foreseen the Holocaust, yes people abided by diplomatic etiquette in giving the salute sometimes but people were aware of Nazism's nature and the dangers of it

arista 19-07-2015 12:58 PM

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/...7307054471.jpg
Life Goes On Today

The Queen Driving
Today with her Armed Bodyguard

waterhog 19-07-2015 02:49 PM

hi everyone. now BB has ended i am going to try and get back into the news. i really liked this story as i do anything to do with the queen. hope you can all spot every song in it.

shame on the sun paper (Nazi salute) - lets boycott and show our Queen will rock you 19.07.15


welcome to the reader
i am going to give you a hidden discovery
with the Queen i am a feeder
my worship and dedication is "mother lovely".
footage has now appeared with grammar
it is causing the palace division wall
my aim is for the sun to loose glamour
i prey they are a "hammer to a fall".
at her age of the video
it was no "these days of our lives"
the "Nazi salute" was as popular as "Eldardo"
like to the BBC to the sun we must show knives.
"don't try so hard"
"ride the wild wind"
i am showing "the sun" my red card
like "father to a son" they have sinned.
how dare our "monarchy" you shame
its to big for "the sun" to handle
so let me "play the game"
and show everyone this "scandal".
before the rise of "Hitler"
this salute was no "seven seas of rhye"
is the sun saying Elisabeth done worse then garry glitter
i have to ask why.
come on people and unite
lets to the "Queen" set a tone
"the sun" is "mr.bad guy" and no delight
that's why they must be "living on my own".
there is no "in my defence"
don't make out "the great pretender"
my love for "Elizabeth" is immense
i will always be a "Queen" defender.
i am calling for disgrace
this "is this the world we created"
the paper machine is not winning this "bicycle race"
"the sun" has now been infiltrated.
please show your appreciation
Elizabeth and Queen are "Barcelona"
down in a "flash" is this papers destination
"Queen" must over "the sun" be the owner.

( i have tried to get my poem to the sun - the queen and the best ever music group in the world. i just wondered will anyone boycott this paper or are you just in the mood to listen to some Queen and boycott awful poetry ? as this is my first poem on the news since BB has ended i hope i have not jumped in at the deep end and made myself look silly but i am prepared for some harsh critics. if you wanted to read about the story i am talking about you can here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33578174 or if you wanted to listen to music with taste i will send you in the right direction here http://www.queenonline.com/ can not stop - off to the palace to chuck my poem over mages fence - she better find it ! )

arista 19-07-2015 03:05 PM

No Hog
Gary Glitter is Far worse
than our Queen

JoshBB 19-07-2015 03:08 PM

Queen was young, probably had no idea what she was doing. Her mum though... I mean, the Nazis were still very outspokenly racist pre-1933 and even though nobody knew what they were going to do, they still had their Sturmabteilung who were very violent.

Livia 19-07-2015 03:14 PM

This was years before the war. Hitler had only just come to power, we were still trying to make peace with the Germans right up to September '39 when they invaded Poland and it finally kicked off. What a massive and ridiculous fuss over a picture that meant nothing then and means nothing now.

user104658 19-07-2015 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8013151)
Queen was young, probably had no idea what she was doing. Her mum though... I mean, the Nazis were still very outspokenly racist pre-1933 and even though nobody knew what they were going to do, they still had their Sturmabteilung who were very violent.

Correct Josh, the British royal family and several prominent British gentry members had very real and very demonstrable links to Hitler and various other elements of the Nazi party, long after their tendencies for violence and supremacy were known.

I find it mind-boggling that people are so desperate to rewrite this history. Well no actually, I know exactly why people want to, what I find mind-boggling is that people are so able to.

I guess there's a certain set "narrative" to the second world war that people just don't want to deviate from.

arista 19-07-2015 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8013151)
Queen was young, probably had no idea what she was doing. Her mum though... I mean, the Nazis were still very outspokenly racist pre-1933 and even though nobody knew what they were going to do, they still had their Sturmabteilung who were very violent.


Yes she was to young, just Larking about.

But the Older ones there had a Good idea that Hitler
was going to change things.

Livia 19-07-2015 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8013281)
Correct Josh, the British royal family and several prominent British gentry members had very real and very demonstrable links to Hitler and various other elements of the Nazi party, long after their tendencies for violence and supremacy were known.

I find it mind-boggling that people are so desperate to rewrite this history. Well no actually, I know exactly why people want to, what I find mind-boggling is that people are so able to.

I guess there's a certain set "narrative" to the second world war that people just don't want to deviate from.


To put this into perspective, this story centres on an eighty year old picture of a six year old girl. And frankly, I think the Queen Mother demonstrated during WW2 who's side she was on and the Queen herself served as a driver and mechanic in the ATS. The only people trying to rewrite history here work for a third-rate tabloid that's good only in an emergency if you should run out of toilet paper.

user104658 19-07-2015 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8013357)
To put this into perspective, this story centres on an eighty year old picture of a six year old girl. And frankly, I think the Queen Mother demonstrated during WW2 who's side she was on and the Queen herself served as a driver and mechanic in the ATS. The only people trying to rewrite history here work for a third-rate tabloid that's good only in an emergency if you should run out of toilet paper.

So there are no links at all between the Royals / the British gentry and the German Nazi party at all. No hints of any sort of Nazi sympathising at all. Gotcha.

Is it easier to live in a world with a whitewashed version of history? I assume it must be, I don't understand why people are so keen to do it otherwise.


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