Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8043396)

It would be acceptable for "wild humans" to dig a hole every time they wanted a sh1t, but it's not acceptable in "society". Breastfeeding a six year old IS weird, whichever way you spin it and I suspect the mother gets FAR more out of it than the child does.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8043426)

Solid foods start at 6 to 9 months in combination with milk. This argument is based on completely incorrect logic, Alex. Both occur simultaneously.

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8043427)

I think it's important to teach children to be independent and confident in themselves as quickly as possible. It's important for parents to push their children to learn for themselves, take risks, and be able to provide for themselves eventually, obviously it's also important for parents to also be supportive and to care for children while they are learning.

I believe it's always a good idea to build children's confidence by encouraging them to be as independent as possible. It just makes more sense that a child that is more capable of thinking for themselves and providing for themselves will be more successful.

I believe this long term breast feeding movement by some mothers is not helpful to a child's long term development. i believe it is a form of co-dependency, and co-dependency is a very toxic form of relationships.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8043431)

Pushing independence onto a child before they are developmentally ready is actually hugely detrimental to long-term self esteem and confidence, believe it or not. Might seem counterintuitive but it's a pretty well established fact.

Pushing children out of their comfort zone before they are ready results in an abnormal anxiety response. Repeating this established has the pavlova effect of creating a link between "unfamiliar situations" and "fear and anxiety", with the net result eventually being an adult who becomes fearful and anxious when confronted with unfamiliar situations (and they probably won't even know why they feel that way).

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8043427)

I think it's important to teach children to be independent and confident in themselves as quickly as possible. It's important for parents to push their children to learn for themselves, take risks, and be able to provide for themselves eventually, obviously it's also important for parents to also be supportive and to care for children while they are learning.

I believe it's always a good idea to build children's confidence by encouraging them to be as independent as possible. It just makes more sense that a child that is more capable of thinking for themselves and providing for themselves will be more successful.

I believe this long term breast feeding movement by some mothers is not helpful to a child's long term development. i believe it is a form of co-dependency, and co-dependency is a very toxic form of relationships.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8043422)

Well yes it's a guess, I don't know her personally.
it's also a guess on your part that there would be psychological stresses to the child if she stopped, we all have had to end feeding whether breast or bottle most before we would maybe have wished to are we a nation of damaged people?.....er, don't answer that.

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8043434)

:clap1: So true Alex - Examination of most Serial Killer's childhoods reveal this 'unnatural' type of bond with their mothers.

It's NOT the norm. and it's freaky.

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8043430)

6-9 months, not 6-9 years. you just said it yourself. let's also discuss the fact that a woman body isn;t meant to be breast feeding for much more than that 6-9 months. especially if she plans to have more children, which most women do.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8043439)

You are simply incorrect in your thinking Alex, starting solids doesn't mean stopping milk. Solids start by nine months and breastfeeding should continue until at least 18 months, preferably two years, for all children. You have been indoctrinated by incorrect propaganda, I'm afraid.

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8043432)

no, it's not an established fact at all. you need to stop reading Jenny mcarthy and alicia silverstone blogs.

children are not fragile little mommy's babies that those overprotective i love being a mommy, moms would have you think, the evidence actually goes the other way. children are incredibly capable of adapting to independence as long as they are surrounded by supportive parents that don't treat them with cotton wool.

you are just so wrong. it's insane how wrong you are.

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8043443)

but these women make it sound like as soon as their baby cries for milk she will give it to them. that is not healthy.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8043439)

You are simply incorrect in your thinking Alex, starting solids doesn't mean stopping milk. Solids start by nine months and breastfeeding should continue until at least 18 months, preferably two years, for all children. You have been indoctrinated by incorrect propaganda, I'm afraid.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8043451)

Alex makes a good point about siblings, she may have had two other children in the last 6yrs the kid would quite literally have had her nose shoved out by now, women are not jersey cows and produce enough milk to adequately feed 1 baby at a time.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8043477)

Two, actually, humans are more than capable of producing enough milk for two children at once, either twins or when there's a small age gap (I have known plenty of women to be breastfeeding a one year old and a newborn at the same time).

The average gap between children is two to three years, and a minimum of one year. Which places the minimum age of natural weaning at 2 to 4. Which is fairly accurate. People's perceptions of the natural age of weaning are completely distorted by modernity - even more so since the big push on formula (which came hand in hand with a massive anti-breast propaganda campaign).

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8043525)

I guess, relevant to the thread topic, whether this is child driven or driven by the mother worth a personal crusade / not wanting her baby to grow up (both of these things do happen of course)... It certainly has absolutely nothing to do with sexual gratification or "paedophilia".

I maintain that anyone who sees breastfeeding and immediately make some connection to sex, are the ones who have a problem that they should look into.

Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 8043531)

I agree TS, I don't think it has anything to do with sexual gratification at all.
Perhaps it makes either/both of them feel more secure or loved.
I just think it is wrong to go so public with it , for the child's sake.

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 8043396)

It would be acceptable for "wild humans" to dig a hole every time they wanted a sh1t, but it's not acceptable in "society". Breastfeeding a six year old IS weird, whichever way you spin it and I suspect the mother gets FAR more out of it than the child does.

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 8043680)

Ew, this is gross! :omgno: