thing is though, just because someone was convicted of something, doesn't mean they did what they was accused of. trust me, the british justice system does fail. without evidence, i feel like i can't judge him for what it says he did.

Just saying.

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well if he admitted to beating someone up for no reason, then that is a different story
but i haven't read that he admitted it or that it was for no reason (maybe i should do some reading about it though idk), the other person could have hit out first or something

just because he admitted to it doesn't mean it was for no reason, and just because he was ordered to pay compensation, doesn't mean the "victims" deserved the compensation

No matter how much you like him, there's no point trying to make excuses for him because he's already admitted it himself, so end of discussion.

first of all, i don't like the fella, just because i'm defending him in this thread, doesn't mean i like him. just trying to get across to judgmental people that there is always two sides to a story. the discussion will end when both people in the discussion have nothing left to say, so don't be so rude.

No... The bum hugging shorts and socks were enough to evict her

It doesn't matter if they dealt the first hit at all, it doesn't change the fact that he assaulted them during the brawl. He committed a crime. If we take an extreme example, such as a man raping a women because she raped him first, does that make the man any less guilty of rape? Think about it.

That rule doesn't apply to Tila then no?

You can't really compare the two situations though, can't you?

Why are people coming people because of things they have said and done in their past? We have all done things we regret.

This. Can we move on from Tila now

Yeah. Although she was one of my favourites, tonight's episode kinda proves that the show can go on without her.

you do realise "assaulted" can mean as little as throwing a drink at someone, poking someone, etc. ...right?
you probably don't know anyone who has been wrongly arrested/convicted, if you did maybe you would understand where i'm coming from. just because an article suggests justice was served, doesn't mean it was.

i'm not saying this dude is innocent, i don't know what happened and the article has no details about what happened. i'm just saying, it's best not to judge people by what you read about them. but from your "a leopard doesn't change it's spots" thing, i'm guessing you are the type to judge someone at the drop of a hat, so judge away.

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erm, you just compared "assault" (which like i said can mean anything, from poking, to throwing a drink, to beating) ..to rape, soo..

you just assaulted me, i'm calling tibb police

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I doubt he was sentenced to six months in jail for poking someone.

I know tons of people who have been wrongly arrested, it's part of my job.

That's just ironic.

Assault and rape are both crimes. So yes, I did just compare them.

ok well we're obviously going to have to agree to disagree :thumbs: i do wonder what your job is though.

and really? how so? i'm judging you by something you wrote yourself, not something someone else wrote about you. so please tell me how that is ironic

Agree...everyone deserves a second chance.....we all make mistakes...if we own it and regret it that's a huge step....no ones perfect and if we become a better person for it then the lesson is learnt. Move on...and remember there is often another side to the story... Move on.

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I judged James based on something he did, and you judged me based on something I said, so we're both as bad as each other.

What else is ironic, is the fact that you're defending James even though you don't like him, and I'm prosecuting James even though I like him. :D

D@@@heads punching each other, his first bromances.