Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaos
(Post 8112731)
I'm sure rape victims will feel the need for seperate gendered toilets. If you're not comfortable pissing with people of the opposite gender in the room, it's not a crime.
|
Here's the thing though, this girl is not of the opposite gender. She is of the same gender. No problem.
As for rape victims, if someone had been raped by a member of the opposite sex in a toilet, then I'd go so far as to say it's a damn sight safer to have many more people in the same toilet to prevent and restrain things like that from happening. If someone wants to enter an opposite gender toilet to rape someone, they will. If everyone's going to the same toilet it makes it a hell of a lot more difficult.
Oh and of course, same sex rape is also a thing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Liam-
(Post 8112750)
The idea of forcing students to share a unisex bathroom is actually ridiculous, yes we're all human, but not everyone would be comfortable with that at all, sex in school is a big enough problem enough as it is without making sexes share a communal bathroom :laugh:
It's all about making kids comfortable, if the girls don't want someone who is still biologically a male using their bathroom then they shouldn't be allowed to, I'm all for making people who are going through personal things comfortable, but not at the expense of other people, there are normally separate disabled toilets around schools, let her use those if she doesn't feel comfortable going into the guys bathroom.
|
The only reason people aren't comfortable with it right now is because it's unusual because that's how everyone is socialised, to use separate toilets. Doesn't mean that's the way it
has to be and just as people were conditioned into thinking that way, over time they could easily be turned the other way by creating more unisex toilets. Perhaps creating three toilets in public places to start with would be a good idea so if people don't care about sharing they can use the unisex one.
Sex in school is a separate issue but the people I know who did it in school did not choose a toilet, believe me :laugh: and for those who do having more people in one toilet means it's easier to be monitored and again more difficult to get away with
As for people pondering over a trans person's biological sex, this shouldn't be happening. You are identified outwardly to other people on gender and gender alone, the only reason someone's physiological attributes should be of any concern to someone is if you wish to sleep with them. No other reason to be thinking about it, especially in one of the most personal and private moments such as a toilet. Again, people need to stop associating trans with sex reassignment surgery because not everyone wishes to transition, nor should they nor do they need to. How do you deal with this outside of school as an adult in a public place? So long as your gender aligns with that of the gender-assigned toilet, I don't see the problem. The toilets are divided by gender not sex, so unless there's going to be genital inspections upon entry then those who match the gender of the toilet should be free to enter it.
Of course this'd all be sorted by the creation of unisex toilets with cubicles only and would have the added benefit of being more inclusive to trans people and those who do not conform to the gender binary.