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What a ridiculous proposal.
My advice would be, if you feel you have a real grievance, take your problem to your MP and get him/her to sort it. They have excellent case workers to deal with problems like this and whether or not you voted for them, they work for you. |
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Not daring to vote against the whip of their party. I have been a small part of a team who have had to, in the end, involve Consultants, Doctors, Carers and even Social workers to fight in court against some of the most heartless and cruellest decisions made against the sick and disabled. For me, even just one such instance is too many, there are in fact masses more than just one. This is a disgraceful idea to have ever been thought about let alone do. |
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The Conservative Party have one very clear image on this forum. There are no discussions on this thread anymore, only lots of anti-Tories all agreeing with each other and howling down and ridiculing any kind of debate. Not all politicians are the same, whichever party they represent. All parties make decisions that are not palatable to some... I happen to think this particular issue is deplorable. But like I say, there is very little debate left here. It's black or white, and you are one or the other, there are no shades of grey. |
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Same here. It's not even been verified as a true story, not even by the author! And yet you're all still running with it. |
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Now of course, it doesn't benefit the government when an appeal is overturned because the claimant doesn't only continue getting paid but are back paid the money they were owed. The government presently offsets this with the 44%, 42%, and 43% of cases that don't get overturned along with all the cases that never get to appeal. DWP are extremely foggy about percentages when it comes to people who don't appeal. Its interesting that in 2012-2013 the DWP introduced something called 'Mandatory reconsideration before appeal'. This was supposed to speed things up and allow the DWP to overturn their decisions without it going to tribunal. It also meant that only the more crooked cases and hardest to judge cases would end up at a tribunal. This clearly doesn't work when you judge the amount of people who are winning their appeals :conf: |
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I mean not and wasn't ever a real Miliband fan, I'm talking objectively here. "Lol look that guy is trying to eat a sandwich and is making a pigs ear of it" = yawn "Lol look that guy has his erect penis stuffed forcibly into an actual pigs ear" = awesome! |
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And anyway, most people who have ever served in the army would probably say... "Only a pig? What kind of girly initiation is that...?" |
The very worrying thing about this is that.....If the Tories could actually get away with this they would actually implement it.It just shows how heartless they are and how they are trying to remove as many rights and as much power from the average person as they possibly can.
They are trying to make us helpless. I mean how the **** can somebody on benefits who gets them taken away pay for anything? It's mental. |
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It is to me a total and unacceptable disgrace that warrants the fullest condemnation from all, as to any govt that would even think of it, let alone plan doing it. |
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the fact that the tory party is no longer a right wing rich mans party, now they are a liberal rich mans greedy party, both tory and labour are very weak now, in their political thinking, with the rise in nationalism in britain could see the working man and the poor voting for nationalist parties, who will put the british working person first, the turn out for working class to vote, is very low now, and who can blame them.
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eg. overturning fox hunting ban scrapping human rights act some have advocated death penalty michael gove has advocated 'random drug testings' on prisoners very scary. |
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Following up with the removal, cutting or denying of benefits and then removing the financial prop of legal aid to help them fight such heartless decisions on appeal. That to me is an almighty abuse of power and should be a crime against the weaker most vulnerable sections of citizens in the UK. As for so called caring Conservative MPs on this one, they should show they care and stop their govt doing such rotten heartless acts, if they really do care, and not vote for same in Parliament. It is odd, very odd to me that they do however troop through the lobbies to support such policy in Parliamentary votes, which for me says all I need to know about them and their party's, under this PM, real agenda too. |
Tories (and again, before anyone says, this includes Blairite Labour Tories) want an elite ruling class and a subservient population to keep things ticking over for them.
That makes none of this surprising. Broken cogs are useless cogs. |
Good post Joey, All these ministers are singing from the same hymn sheet.
Unfortunately its the general public who vote these people in. The majority of voters don't have a clue what's going on within government and even if they do, they still remain leery of innovation and change. Of course there are voters who don't want change, my extended family think the conservatives are wonderful, but then they've done rather well by them. People born before the mid 60s had guaranteed employment and bought affordable homes. In the 60s my parents bought their first terraced house in West London for 19k. Back then, property was seen as a necessity more than an investment and priced accordingly. That same little house is now worth around 500k. Most modern day couples of a similar age (to what my parents where) couldn't afford a mortgage for half a million, even if they both have fairly decent professions. Most young couples can't afford a bedsit, especially in West London. If anyone stops this capitalist nonsense, it will be those born in the 70s, 80s and 90s. In a very recent university study, 78% of its students said they 'very excited' by many of Corbyn's policies. |
new labour sold out the working class vote, for zero jobs, and a younger generation stuck on the dole, and their is a price their with it, because they have lost their grass root support in the working class heartland, and what where the blairite elite trying to do was, dismantle the working class, and they knew what they where doing, and with there lies of spin and deceit, you have the tories that are using the poor and the under paid to suffer for it, you have two parties that have been a pain in are backsides for the last few decades.
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