If you say so, Ashley.

I think the "gay voice" isn't about being gay it's just about the person. Some gay people are quite flamboyant and that's when the "accent" comes out.

Whilst I do not want to connect the 2 in any way shape of form


it does beg the question are you born a paedophile?

I think that whatever you are, it's decided long before you're born.

You're born with a sexuality, you can't choose it, if someone lives their life being with one gender, then later on in life discover a fondness of the same gender, that's not them choosing to be gay, or developing gayness, it's a piece of them that has just never reached the surface before, like you could go all your life not knowing you were allergic to something, then one day discovering you are by accidentally eating something that causes a reaction, it's the same principle, it just takes some people longer to realise it than others.

Ashley can you give us some examples of cases you think where people have actually changed their sexuality cos I just can't see it mate sorry.

Which I suppose in itself begs the question, can you help who you are attracted to? :shrug:

Beliefs do not require sources.

hhhmmmm I would say not in all cases for this because you find alot of paedophiles were victims of abuse as kids themselves

No and its a tough thing but you can chose not to abuse children just to get your rocks off

They way you are brought up?

They should at least have some empirical basis if you want to challenge others to believe it.

Why would anyone choose to be gay anyway? it's not exactly a benefitial way of life

Or it could be that lots more people than we realise have these attractions but if you are abused you are far more likely to act on them?

:think:


ie it does not stimulate feelings but merely makes you more likely to act on them

I wasn't challenging anyone I just wanted to know what everyone else thought lmao

its getting better :spin:

I don't believe that no. I think that if you're abused as a kid it gives you a warped idea of what sex is and should be like

Well ok then can you tell us how you have come to the conclusion yourself that you believe people can change their sexuality?

I'm not looking for an argument btw I am genuinely intrigued that is all.

It's an interesting question, personally I believe people are born gay, but as to whether people are born evil or whether their life experience shape them is not as clear cut to me

My gay friend, who's really happy and getting married next year, once said to me if he'd been able to choose when he was younger, no way would he have chosen to be gay. He'd have chosen to be straight and have a wife and kids.

I'm not a scientist or gay so i really would'nt like to say.

you dont have to be alex fergusson or david beckham to have an opinion on man u

That's pretty common I think, I know that if I had a choice I'd have chosen to be straight as well, I'm happy being gay, but life would have been way more easy if I wasn't, the notion that someone can choose their sexuality is ludicrous to me.

I would think just about all parents would want their kids straight just because most folks are and its easier


(and i dont want to hear "i just want them healthy and happy yada yada yada)


that is not to say when they are gay they stop loving them, in fact i would imagine when they do find out most love them even more - i know i would

I'd say that they were bisexual with a massive preference towards the opposite gender or that they repressed their bi/gay side.

Sexuality is not something that can change. No one would choose to be gay or bi if it was a choice, life is harder for anyone who isn't straight.