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01-10-2015 08:04 PM |
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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed
(Post 8192955)
I've never considered that being attracted to trans is a pan-sexual thing. If you are attracted to a woman that was once a man or a man that was once a woman, you are attracted to a specific sex.
I used to date a cross dresser (not the same as a transvestite) who loved the feel of feminine clothes. That didn't make me pan-sexual, it just made me open to someone who had a fetish.
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Trans people whom identify as either a man or a woman remain on the binary and so yes, you're right, bisexuals can be attracted to them. Bisexuality is the attraction to either men or women, so anyone who identifies as such fits the requirements.
Cross dressing is a separate issue but yes, it doesn't change anything.
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Originally Posted by MTVN
(Post 8193395)
My problem with that description is that I don't think bisexuals would say that all of that doesn't apply to them. I doubt that the vast majority of bisexuals would think 'I only like those who fall into the gender binary'.
I'd also say that it's nonsense to think you're not bisexual if you're attracted to trans people, they are not a separate gender.
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Well of course they wouldn't, because the vast majority of people accept and subscribe to the gender binary that's become established in many societies around the world and have absolutely no idea of the differences between sex and gender, and that there are more than just 'men' and 'women'. That's not a slight on them personally, it's a societal issue but still. If you asked most bisexuals to define their sexuality I'd bet they'd say something along the lines of 'I like men and women', 'I'm attracted to both genders', etc etc. That's because they are, bi means two and so they are attracted to men and women.
And as I've just explained to DemolitionRed, trans people who are choosing to identify as, or have transitioned to become either a man or a woman are still on the gender binary and therefore bisexuals can be attracted to them. I never once said if you're bi you can't be attracted to trans people because that is nonsense, so long as those trans people's gender is binary.
What pansexuality refers to is the possible attraction to those whose gender is outside of the binary, and there are many trans people whom choose to live their life outside of it. It encompasses all gender identities, not just men and women, and as such is gender blind and based on strict personality led attraction.
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