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kirklancaster 02-10-2015 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8194765)
I've never seen a male G-spot but I know it's there. :smug:

:laugh: I've known for years that a female 'G Spot' exists, but where I don't know, because I've never quite been able to my put my finger on it.

user104658 02-10-2015 08:25 AM

Does Heterophobia Exist 2.0 Redux Extreme: Race Edition

*ahem*

Anyway short answer from me; Racism exists in all forms, against all ethnicities. If a white person walks through a "black neighbourhood" in Los Angeles and feels threatened or experiences harassment because of their skin colour, then that is racism. Full stop.

INSTITUTIONAL racism does not exist in any meaningful form against white people in the west. It ----*does exist*----, however, in some Asian countries such as Japan and the Koreas. I've had people argue against me on this one on here before but it does exist. It is a fact.

user104658 02-10-2015 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 8194989)
:laugh: I've known for years that a female 'G Spot' exists, but where I don't know, because I've never quite been able to my put my finger on it.

You've been looking in the wrong hole!

Also... what are you doing in here :nono:.

Kyle 02-10-2015 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8194994)
Does Heterophobia Exist 2.0 Redux Extreme: Race Edition

*ahem*

Anyway short answer from me; Racism exists in all forms, against all ethnicities. If a white person walks through a "black neighbourhood" in Los Angeles and feels threatened or experiences harassment because of their skin colour, then that is racism. Full stop.

INSTITUTIONAL racism does not exist in any meaningful form against white people in the west. It ----*does exist*----, however, in some Asian countries such as Japan and the Koreas. I've had people argue against me on this one on here before but it does exist. It is a fact.

It's a slight tangent but I'd be interested to know from people who have been to Japan what their opinion is on society there. By all accounts online I've heard there can be a slight xenophobic attitude to elements of their society but like I said I don't know anyone who's been there personally and always wanted to go.

user104658 02-10-2015 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 8194998)
It's a slight tangent but I'd be interested to know from people who have been to Japan what their opinion is on society there. By all accounts online I've heard there can be a slight xenophobic attitude to elements of their society but like I said I don't know anyone who's been there personally and always wanted to go.

My best friends little brother lived there for 3 years, seems like basically it's a mixed bag like anywhere I guess. Lots of Japanese people love / are slightly obsessed with US / UK culture I guess in the same way that a lot of people are big on Japanese culture here. Like I said though, there is a bit of institutional racism against non-japanese people, especially when it comes to getting a job or career progression. Again like here (and this of course may be stereotyping a bit?) younger generations tend to be more multicultural with a lot of the older ones being more... Umm... Traditional (ie a bit racist).

That's second hand info obviously but does otherwise come from someone who has been obsessed with Japan for most of his life and lived there for years. He actually ended up moving back because he started to feel very out of place.

Kyle 02-10-2015 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8195003)
My best friends little brother lived there for 3 years, seems like basically it's a mixed bag like anywhere I guess. Lots of Japanese people love / are slightly obsessed with US / UK culture I guess in the same way that a lot of people are big on Japanese culture here. Like I said though, there is a bit of institutional racism against non-japanese people, especially when it comes to getting a job or career progression. Again like here (and this of course may be stereotyping a bit?) younger generations tend to be more multicultural with a lot of the older ones being more... Umm... Traditional (ie a bit racist).

That's second hand info obviously but does otherwise come from someone who has been obsessed with Japan for most of his life and lived there for years. He actually ended up moving back because he started to feel very out of place.

Interesting stuff thanks.

Do you think overall he would recommend it for a couple of weeks of sightseeing?

user104658 02-10-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyle (Post 8195005)
Interesting stuff thanks.

Do you think overall he would recommend it for a couple of weeks of sightseeing?

He still loves it just couldn't live there!

I personally would imagine it's a "must go" for anyone wanting to travel the world. Say a week in Tokyo and a week in rural Japan. Both are pretty unique.

Tom4784 02-10-2015 11:19 AM

People who are saying that it exists are misunderstanding what Reverse Racism is and are confusing it with racism in general.

It doesn't mean that black people can't be racist towards white people, that's nothing to do with it. It's about the idea that things like Black History Month, Black Lives Matter and other black-centric things are racist to white people because it isn't about them which is a ridiculous, self absorbed and ignorant thought process.

Northern Monkey 02-10-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8195108)
People who are saying that it exists are misunderstanding what Reverse Racism is and are confusing it with racism in general.

It doesn't mean that black people can't be racist towards white people, that's nothing to do with it. It's about the idea that things like Black History Month, Black Lives Matter and other black-centric things are racist to white people because it isn't about them which is a ridiculous, self absorbed and ignorant thought process.

Oh right.I did'nt know that was the definition.Well i don't believe that's racist.Black people can have as many events or groups as they like without me being offended.

Niamh. 02-10-2015 03:02 PM

Here is the definition of reverse discrimination

the unfair treatment of members of majority groups resulting from preferential policies, as in college admissions or employment, intended to remedy earlier discrimination against minorities.

http://dictionary.reference.com/brow...discrimination

Northern Monkey 02-10-2015 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8195460)
Here is the definition of reverse discrimination

the unfair treatment of members of majority groups resulting from preferential policies, as in college admissions or employment, intended to remedy earlier discrimination against minorities.

http://dictionary.reference.com/brow...discrimination

Well.Surely that does exist if there's a definition?

Niamh. 02-10-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8195465)
Well.Surely that does exist if there's a definition?

Sounds more like Positive discrimination towards minorities = Reverse racism toward majorities?

Northern Monkey 02-10-2015 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8195469)
Sounds more like Positive discrimination towards minorities = Reverse racism toward majorities?

Yeah.Sounds like two definitions of the same thing.
Problem solved
/thread

Niamh. 02-10-2015 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8195479)
Yeah.Sounds like two definitions of the same thing.
Problem solved
/thread

:laugh:

Tom4784 02-10-2015 03:24 PM

It's a definition that only works in theory, the phrase as a whole is just something to propagate the idea that minorities are somehow privileged for having quota laws in place when it's not. There are more opportunities for white people in this world then there are for black people and that's a fact and those laws are just there to guarantee opportunities for people who would probably not have them otherwise due to the fact that many societies (America especially) are up to their necks in institutional racism.

JoshBB 02-10-2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaos (Post 8194834)
I agree with all of this tbh. But to say racism doesn't exist with X race is just ignorant and wrong IMO. Racism can happen to absolutely anyone.

Can it exist? Yes. If the atmosphere was there, and society was different.. of course it could.

But does it exist? No. We have pretty much colonised the entire world, and during that period we pretty much gave white people superiority over the natives of those countries, established our own language as the global 'default', and so racism cannot properly exist against white people because we have power and privilege in society. You need both of those things to be be actively 'racist' so to speak.

Niamh. 02-10-2015 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8195519)
It's a definition that only works in theory, the phrase as a whole is just something to propagate the idea that minorities are somehow privileged for having quota laws in place when it's not. There are more opportunities for white people in this world then there are for black people and that's a fact and those laws are just there to guarantee opportunities for people who would probably not have them otherwise due to the fact that many societies (America especially) are up to their necks in institutional racism.

Oh yeah, I absolutely agree with that. Same as I understand and agree with the need for positive discrimination towards women in work environments. It doesn't sound fair in theory but it is necessary to even up the playing field for men and women of all races

user104658 02-10-2015 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8195532)
power and privilege in society. You need both of those things to be be actively 'racist' so to speak.

No you don't. I'm baffled about where this misunderstanding had spawned from, it's such a popular opinion these days but it's simply incorrect. It's just... Not the case. Racism implies intent, not consequence, therefore ANY individual of ANY ethnicity who dislikes, stereotypes, or otherwise insults ANY other individual or group of individuals, based arbitrarily on their race, is being racist. What happens afterwards, how affected the other person was (if at all) is irrelevant.

The only explanation I can think of is that someone, at some point, heard someone else say that only a majority race (in the West, white people) can be and often are institutionally racist and got confused and thought it applied to all racism and then that idea spread. But it doesn't apply. It's a misunderstanding of what the term means and implies.

Headie 02-10-2015 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 8195108)
People who are saying that it exists are misunderstanding what Reverse Racism is and are confusing it with racism in general.

It doesn't mean that black people can't be racist towards white people, that's nothing to do with it. It's about the idea that things like Black History Month, Black Lives Matter and other black-centric things are racist to white people because it isn't about them which is a ridiculous, self absorbed and ignorant thought process.

:worship:

Kate! 02-10-2015 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollface (Post 8194412)
"Reverse racism" doesn't exist because it doesn't make sense, but "Racism" does and racism can be towards anyone of any race.

This

the truth 02-10-2015 06:15 PM

yes it exists

Ninastar 02-10-2015 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8195845)
No you don't. I'm baffled about where this misunderstanding had spawned from, it's such a popular opinion these days but it's simply incorrect. It's just... Not the case. Racism implies intent, not consequence, therefore ANY individual of ANY ethnicity who dislikes, stereotypes, or otherwise insults ANY other individual or group of individuals, based arbitrarily on their race, is being racist. What happens afterwards, how affected the other person was (if at all) is irrelevant.

The only explanation I can think of is that someone, at some point, heard someone else say that only a majority race (in the West, white people) can be and often are institutionally racist and got confused and thought it applied to all racism and then that idea spread. But it doesn't apply. It's a misunderstanding of what the term means and implies.

Totally agree. Well said.

I don't believe the term 'reverse racism' exists. So no, I don't believe 'reverse racism' is real, it's just standard racism. Anyone of any colour can be racist to anyone of any colour. I don't think it's right to say otherwise.

Northern Monkey 02-10-2015 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8195845)
No you don't. I'm baffled about where this misunderstanding had spawned from, it's such a popular opinion these days but it's simply incorrect. It's just... Not the case. Racism implies intent, not consequence, therefore ANY individual of ANY ethnicity who dislikes, stereotypes, or otherwise insults ANY other individual or group of individuals, based arbitrarily on their race, is being racist. What happens afterwards, how affected the other person was (if at all) is irrelevant.

The only explanation I can think of is that someone, at some point, heard someone else say that only a majority race (in the West, white people) can be and often are institutionally racist and got confused and thought it applied to all racism and then that idea spread. But it doesn't apply. It's a misunderstanding of what the term means and implies.

This is exactly my view on this strange 'power and privilege' argument.That is 'institutional racism'.Anyone can be plain old racist to another ethnic group.Definately some confusion there.

According to that argument i could go to Pakistan and start calling the majority indiginous population dirty smelly p**i b******s and i'm not racist?
I don't think so.

kirklancaster 02-10-2015 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8196168)
This is exactly my view on this strange 'power and privilege' argument.That is 'institutional racism'.Anyone can be plain old racist to another ethnic group.Definately some confusion there.

According to that argument i could go to Pakistan and start calling the majority indiginous population dirty smelly p**i b******s and i'm not racist?
I don't think so.

Great post.

user104658 02-10-2015 10:01 PM

I think I should add to this that I don't at all think it's "racist" to have things like black history month, celebrate music of black origins, or any of the other celebrations of identity that "white people don't have" and it IS ridiculous when people claim that they are or try to pretend that for "equality" we would need white equivalents. Obviously, we don't, and all of these things are great positives.

However pointing out that those things are clearly not racist doesn't mean that it "doesn't exist", in many other scenarios.


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