Yeah time distortions are a huge part of the film, there's that one and

I presumed she meant, that my grandfather was killed, before my father had been conceived by my grandfather and -mother.

But it's a paradox, isn't it?

You kill your grandfather, so you cease to exist, so then nobody could've killed your grandfather. So is your grandfather still alive? :shrug: That's what this thread is for :laugh:

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I don't think it can be solved unless someone actually did it.

I was going to say this - well done mock.


I did do biology but I flunked it.

...nothing would change surely...you would just be there thinking about going back in time to kill your grandfather..if you actually went back and killed him then you wouldn't exist so he would still be alive and you do exist but are unable to go back../if that makes sense...I'm not even sure it does to me...

this is the best explanation i think.

the only way to travel back in time would be to travel faster than the expansion of the universe itself, because the only real measure of time is how quickly;y the universe is expanding, but you can never travel so quickly towards the center of the universe that you could see the beginning of the universe, because it's already happened. The beginning of the universe has already happened, and really we are just watching the consequences of that at varying speeds.

also there is the idea of re-incarnation...if re-incarnation is real then you would still exist no matter who your grandfather was, because your soul would still be put into a body, it's not about genetics if you believe in re-incarnation.

Well yeah that sounds logical.Except there are theories that if you could bend time like folding a piece of paper then maybe instead of following the piece of paper(time) round the bend you could travel directly between the two sides(points in time),Maybe by going through a worm hole(if they exist) bypassing the bend(the timeline) and traveling back to a point that has already happened(the past).
I think it's unlikely to ever be possible but who am i?

Pretty much what i've always thought also.

This.

I don't believe there are already existing parallel timelines though, but I believe the first to travel backwards in time would effectively create one. But then, who knows if it's already happened and this is a parallel timeline?

I don't believe it's possible anyway.

you cant go back in time is the actual answer

If the concept of time shifts and slips in space and time/dimensions are so acceptable then why not the idea of shuffling off the mortal coil... to another when we die?

It's an interesting thought though. One little change made 200 years ago could affect us today. It's the reason why I'm glad time travel doesn't exist.

Personally I believe in the multiverse theory because you'd could be creating a time paradox by killing your grandfather, if he died before your parent was conceived, then you would cease to exist, therefore you're unable to kill your grandfather, thus bringing him back to life

kizzy when you die nothing is going to happen, stop reaching :joker:

But how do you know it does'nt exist?It might already have happened:laugh:
This reality may just be one of many.

You can't guess anything exists unless there is proof to be honest. You can hope all you want but factually it doesn't exist. :)

Y'all need to watch The Butterfly Effect.

[If you went back in time and killed your grandfather, what would happen?]


We are unable to travel back in time
but with high powered faster travel
we will jump ahead in time

I suppose if you go back to kill your grandfather before you were born, then by definition of the scenario where you are in the past, you are already living in a world where it is possible to exist without having been born. And so killing him shouldn't make any difference to you in terms of the 'if he's dead you would never be born' problem. If you catch my drift?

Alternatively if you want to kill your grandfather AND travel through time without igniting the grandfather paradox, you could just travel to last week and kill him (assuming he was alive last week).

Its pretty clear really, if its possible to travel back in time, it can only be within your own time line and therefore you can only go back to the point you were born, making it impossible to have killed your grandfather before you were born. Time only has relevance after the point you existed, it didn't exist before then.

If time travel is possible though, the very concepts of "already" and "first" are meaningless, because the existence of time travel means that time is not linear. If it can happen, it has happened, and it has always happened.

Again - unless, of course, time travel was first invented in say the year 3020... And they went back to the year 2867... And that activated a paradox that completely screwed up space time. In which case we might coast along until 2867 and then POP the whole universe collapses in on itself. :joker:

D: No one needs to watch The Butterfly Effect, it's awful!

Plus irrelevant to the grandfather paradox because in the Butterfly Effect rules you timetravel within your own consciousness and so (in that example) the furthest back you could go is being a fetus. I guess you could maybe hang yourself on the umbilical cord as a sort of self-abortion...