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The_Hitman 18-01-2007 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by naughtynert
now they have had jade and danielle in the diary room to ask what they meant by there comments about shilpa..when is it shilpas turn to be questioned on what she means when she said to jade she is white trash?.... all is fair :spin2:
Yeah, that would be GREAT if it actually happened.

Red Moon 18-01-2007 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
No actually I am not. She picked up on that they picked up on her conversation with Cleo when she said "it is, it is racist".
Did they tell her that Danielle said for her to "****** off home?" coz that was insulting that they didn't tell her the full picture and got a statement of "no, theres no racism going on here".
But if someone told me that I would feel insulted but I wouldn't take it as racism. The only reason you would take it that way in argument if I was a racist and thought everyone was out to get me and I was in another country at the the time. Shilpa is better than that. She understands what such a comment might mean in the context it was said.

naughtynert 18-01-2007 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
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Originally posted by Red Moon


Sorry to have to disagree, but I feel you are insulting the intelligence of a very articulate woman. She knew what Big Brother was talking about from what I saw.

No actually I am not. She picked up on that they picked up on her conversation with Cleo when she said "it is, it is racist".
Did they tell her that Danielle said for her to "****** off home?" coz that was insulting that they didn't tell her the full picture and got a statement of "no, theres no racism going on here".

If danielle was being racist she would have said go home to pakistan or india..she merley said go home as in where you live, how is this racist?.... so if i said to my next door neighbour who is black american you going home later im a racist?... all this is getting out of hand and its going to start riots again if its not carefull.

naughtynert 18-01-2007 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by The_Hitman
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Originally posted by naughtynert
now they have had jade and danielle in the diary room to ask what they meant by there comments about shilpa..when is it shilpas turn to be questioned on what she means when she said to jade she is white trash?.... all is fair :spin2:
Yeah, that would be GREAT if it actually happened.
to the last post that told me to ****** off..... why?...no need for that.

naughtynert 18-01-2007 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by shinystar
BIG BROTHER is supporting racism and turning a blind eye to it. I cannot believe such ignorants and channel4 is probably encouraging the act.

I cannot believe such channels encourage such acts. BIG BROTHER is breeding a new HITLER.

Shilpa is reportedly denied it not racism simply out of sympathy because she is being watched and BIG BROTHER a snake.
the only thing they are turning a blind eye to is shipla comments to other members.... ie "white trash remark" all the fuss is focused around shipla all the time and i think its unfair she should be hauled off to the diary room and asked why she made certain comments about other members..im sorry if i was refered to as white trash i would consider it to be a racist comment but we dont get the protection or the fuss put on us we have to live with it all the time.....

The_Hitman 18-01-2007 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by naughtynert
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Originally posted by The_Hitman
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Originally posted by naughtynert
now they have had jade and danielle in the diary room to ask what they meant by there comments about shilpa..when is it shilpas turn to be questioned on what she means when she said to jade she is white trash?.... all is fair :spin2:
Yeah, that would be GREAT if it actually happened.
to the last post that told me to ****** off..... why?...no need for that.
Only god knows what youre talkin about now.

Are you a Goody employee?

naughtynert 18-01-2007 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by krazy1
shilpa has denied it cuz she doesnt know half the stuff sed behind her back!
neither do the some of the other house mates know what she has said behind their backs....its all a one sided debate in shipla's favour and it should'nt be

S2 18-01-2007 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by naughtynert
yes and if jade get evicted then people in england are not allowed free speech or argue with an member of the asain community without being branded a racist?... shipla hasnt been the angel some people claim either, so will her actions be accepatble if jade goes?

Even shilpa's mother has said her daughter has been wrapped in cotton wool and had most things done for her for most of her life and she dosent think its racial within the big bro house and she's been watching the show..so has seen how her daughter has behaved too.

Have you even watched Shilpas' mothers interview? Because if you have, you'd know that Shilpas' mother hasn't seen the show, as its not available in India and they've just had to be content with the news over the internet. So first, get accurate information rather than making it up.

And who said, if you are seen talking with an asian, you'll be branded a racist. Stop making alleged assumptions.

naughtynert 18-01-2007 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by krazy1
shilpa has denied it cuz she doesnt know half the stuff sed behind her back!
so why is shilpa in the house if she dont want the claim for fame?.... to re-launch her career, for the money at the end of it?... oh she went in because she felt like it..yes right!.. sorry but does it matter how jade became famous?... she's a celb n so is shipla. The only thing i disagree with this years big bro is jades mum and boyfriend are not celebs and should not have gone in.

S2 18-01-2007 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon

But if someone told me that I would feel insulted but I wouldn't take it as racism. The only reason you would take it that way in argument if I was a racist and thought everyone was out to get me and I was in another country at the the time. Shilpa is better than that. She understands what such a comment might mean in the context it was said.
You are right Shilpa is better than that, and when she comes out the house and sees all the clippings, she'll then take the right needed action.

One of the following or more is racist.

Danielle:- "I wish she'd just F off back home"
- "she wants to be white"
- "They eat with their hands in India, don't they"
- imitation of shilpas comments by way of mocking her peoples accent.
- she can't even speak english

Jade:-"go back to the slums"

jacky:- "that Indian"
- "do you live in a house or a shack?"
- On seeing Shilpa wearing a shawl "look at what you are wearing? If I was your mother, i'd beat you out the kitchen with an indian broom"

Jack:
i believe he called her the P word, but i wont specualte.

jo-
- "they're all hairy, aren't they"
- imitation of shilpas comments by way of mocking her peoples accent
- Indians are thin because they are always sick over their food

S2 18-01-2007 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by naughtynert

If danielle was being racist she would have said go home to pakistan or india..she merley said go home as in where you live, how is this racist?.... so if i said to my next door neighbour who is black american you going home later Im a racist?... all this is getting out of hand and its going to start riots again if its not carefull.
At the em-bolded bit - If you say to your american neighbour " you going home later" then you are asking a damn question, not telling them to go home!
And telling Shilpa to "****** off home" is racist. She is a guest to this country, who has been asked to leave for no just cause. If Shilpa left the BB house, where would she go? Home to India, because she has no home in the UK

Red Moon 18-01-2007 11:02 PM

But now we are leaving the topic and getting on to the racism debate and that works two ways.

Different cultures have different opinions of each other. Look how Bush virtually thinks every person that follows the islam faith is a terrorist. It's wrong but he does it. He is planning to go to war with Iran. Why because he believes his right. That is racism. America the great and all that. That is racism too. Is Bush right?

or

Are the Islam nations right in thinking they are right, that America is the evil nation because that could be considered racist too.

We have to try and understand this, learn from it and grow. Channel 4 have, by mistake opened a can of worms that needed opening. It needs to be a global debate and not just a national one.

S2 18-01-2007 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by Red Moon
But now we are leaving the topic and getting on to the racism debate and that works two ways.
Different cultures have different opinions of each other. Look how Bush virtually thinks every person that follows the islam faith is a terrorist. It's wrong but he does it. He is planning to go to war with Iran. Why because he believes his right. That is racism. America the great and all that. That is racism too. Is Bush right?
or
Are the Islam nations right in thinking they are right, that America is the evil nation because that could be considered racist too.
We have to try and understand this, learn from it and grow. Channel 4 have, by mistake opened a can of worms that needed opening. It needs to be a global debate and not just a national one.
I dont't mean to be rude but please don't bring religion to show a point. Bush is scum, his father too, so his scum ways will lead him to his death.
There will be culture clashes, yes, but this game is equal to all, and all should be protected too. Whether they are aware of it or not. Like how they did with Jade and Danielle, they made them aware of the goings on and their actions. Have they donw that with Shilpa? Have they told her the horrid names she has been caled? No!!!
Endamol are protecting jade for various reasons other than the fact she shares the same agent as Russel, Dermot etc who are also quick to defend Jade yet brush everyone elses comments that are anti-Jade.
What a bunch of moronic weak losers

rex3 18-01-2007 11:13 PM

they dont support racism... but they have manipulated it, to potray the issue

Edwin 18-01-2007 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by shinystar
If they are not supporting it why are they denying the facts? Jade Goofy bf called Shilpa a pa**. Ain't that a racist word in the dictionary? Check here: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...7124&dict=CALD
Channel 4 and BBC news confirmed that Jack called Shilpa a "*******". Derogative, yes, racist, no.

shinystar 18-01-2007 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by naughtynert
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Originally posted by shinystar
BIG BROTHER is supporting racism and turning a blind eye to it. I cannot believe such ignorants and channel4 is probably encouraging the act.

I cannot believe such channels encourage such acts. BIG BROTHER is breeding a new HITLER.

Shilpa is reportedly denied it not racism simply out of sympathy because she is being watched and BIG BROTHER a snake.
the only thing they are turning a blind eye to is shipla comments to other members.... ie "white trash remark" all the fuss is focused around shipla all the time and i think its unfair she should be hauled off to the diary room and asked why she made certain comments about other members..Im sorry if i was refered to as white trash i would consider it to be a racist comment but we dont get the protection or the fuss put on us we have to live with it all the time.....
I haven't heard these words come from Shilpa and that did not happened but it could be from another contestant. Either way, if you’re talking about fairness then you would need to consider how this racist behaviour was brought about. I mean, what did Shilpa do at the beginning to go down this road? You have to ask yourself the question. Did she go out of her way to cause offence to other people culture or country?

Jade Goofy, Danielle Lloyd and Jo O'Meara all pounced on an innocent girl to degrade her in all manners and form along with her country and others.

“Jo O'Meara” said do Indians eat with their fingers? And someone I think Danielle muttered Or is that Chinese? What sort of comment is that? That a comment to degrade a country in all form. I buy a portion of Chips “Opened” so am I suppose to eat that from a dog bowl and not use my fingers? Because that what dogs do! Or how about a sandwich?

Now, in the second or third day running someone is using the word, "White Trash"?

I would say if anyone is now using that remark this would have been brought out from a person un-subconscious level which clearly states this is about racism. Normally, if you’re going to argue, dignified people will use similar words against each other. If it a racist issue, then in one un-subconscious mind then one would use a racist term to degrade the other since this is what it really about. So now it clear - this whole ordeal is about racism and you have solidified the truth.

Dan_ 18-01-2007 11:29 PM

I thought it was Jermaine that used the term 'white trash' anyway, that was a term he used to say what they would be called in America.

Seeing as it's an American phrase I'd be suprised if it was Shilpa using it.

S2 18-01-2007 11:31 PM

^Shilpa did not use that term or anyting similiar to it either.

In regards to eating with your hands, how do you eat chips? crisps? A McDonalds meal? Don't tell me we are meant to use a knife and fork for that?

The_Hitman 18-01-2007 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by BB fernzy
I thought it was Jermaine that used the term 'white trash' anyway, that was a term he used to say what they would be called in America.

Seeing as it's an American phrase I'd be suprised if it was Shilpa using it.
Yes, but these Goody fans are using the same philosophy as Jade.

LIES.

Theyre spreading lies all over this forum.

Dan_ 18-01-2007 11:42 PM

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Originally posted by The_Hitman
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Originally posted by BB fernzy
I thought it was Jermaine that used the term 'white trash' anyway, that was a term he used to say what they would be called in America.

Seeing as it's an American phrase I'd be suprised if it was Shilpa using it.
Yes, but these Goody fans are using the same philosophy as Jade.

LIES.

Theyre spreading lies all over this forum.
I know, it seemed that some were trying to make out Jermaine to be racist over the whole white trash phrase when all he was doing was describing how they would be perceived in America.

Red Moon 18-01-2007 11:53 PM

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Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
I dont't mean to be rude but please don't bring religion to show a point. Bush is scum, his father too, so his scum ways will lead him to his death.
I agree about Bush not being a nice person. But bringing religion into the this discussion about the show is as valid as bring in the race card. We could also bring in the nationalist card, or regionalist card and many more. We could say every time a housemate makes a comment that Joe comes from Essex it is regionalist insult. How many times have the group of three been insulted on the site with statements to where they come from. Indeed at one point the whole of Britain was said to be racist which can't be true. Without checking I guess you come from Britain and you are not racist.

Everything is said in some kind of context. Bush believes what he does is right because on 9/11 and he thinks the whole of the Islamic world is out to get America. That is his context for his opinion.

What you saw on the show and how Shilpa is treated is you context for your views. Shilpa's context is different because she is in the house. Who is right in this issue, well neither of you. The truth is somewhere between the two. You are not in the house and Shilpa hasn't seen everything. The truth, you must agree, is somewhere in the middle. You are just an observer while she is the player. And even as an observer you are only allowed to see what the producers want you to see.

Nothing is clear cut. Yes Shilpa is good housemate, Jade is in the wrong but at the end of the day it's just a game show. It's important because it has fueled this discussion in the UK.

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Originally posted by Shilpa_Fan
There will be culture clashes, yes, but this game is equal to all, and all should be protected too. Whether they are aware of it or not. Like how they did with Jade and Danielle, they made them aware of the goings on and their actions. Have they donw that with Shilpa? Have they told her the horrid names she has been caled? No!!!
They made them aware of the problem because 27,000 people complained to Ofcom and they had to do something. If the people didn't want them to do something why complian. Now they have done something people are complaining about it. Channel 4 can't win.

Until we see the whole of the Shilpa Diary room we will never know if they showed her everything we have seen. Maybe we will never know. But what I do know is we have the chance to vote out Jade. So lets do it.

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Originally posted by Shilpa_FanEndamol are protecting jade for various reasons other than the fact she shares the same agent as Russel, Dermot etc who are also quick to defend Jade yet brush everyone elses comments that are anti-Jade.

What a bunch of moronic weak losers
People love conspiracy theories . Endamol are in it to make money. The more the show is noticed the more money they make in future. And the higher the share price. Do they care about Jade, I don't think so or they wouldn't have let her go back in the house to make a fool of herself. They just wanted more viewers.

shinystar 19-01-2007 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by Edwin
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Originally posted by shinystar
If they are not supporting it why are they denying the facts? Jade Goofy bf called Shilpa a pa**. Ain't that a racist word in the dictionary? Check here: http://dictionary.cambridge.org/defi...7124&dict=CALD
Channel 4 and BBC news confirmed that Jack called Shilpa a "*******". Derogative, yes, racist, no.
Even if Jack called her a **** or **** it all very obvious and you will probably never know the truth because they probably edited or dubbed the words. Jack, Jade Goofy, Danielle Lloyd and Jo O'Meara are all part of a racist crime. They grouped together over laughing at each other jokes/comments when it not even funny just to cause maximum humiliation. They are not just any jokes but indirect racist jokes which are closely connected to being a foreigner.

You don't need to say the words because racism is written all over their body language. The body language never lies. If you can't see the hurt that they have caused then your ignorant is bliss.

ttw 19-01-2007 01:48 PM

I don't think Jack called Shilpa a p***, Ch4 are not that stupid as to do so as they themselves know it they get caught they are in massive trouble for knowing and not taking action.

And IF he did say it, they could have easily changed camera angles so you only hear the bleep in order to disguise it and as to avoid lip readers.

hass 19-01-2007 01:50 PM

so just by her body language you can tell she is racist? get a grip. if i snarl someone in the street, it might be simply because i dont like them, not because they are black.

shinystar 19-01-2007 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by ttw
I don't think Jack called Shilpa a p***, Ch4 are not that stupid as to do so as they themselves know it they get caught they are in massive trouble for knowing and not taking action.

And IF he did say it, they could have easily changed camera angles so you only hear the bleep in order to disguise it and as to avoid lip readers.
If channel4 arn't that stupid they should have removed Jade the new breed of Hitler from the house to show racsim isn't tolerated. Instead they let it brew which goes to show they support it.


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