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user104658 30-10-2015 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 8255894)
I don't have a problem with it.
Did I read it wrong or isn't it just when you visit certain websites you will be spied on?
Yeah it's only sites with ISIS in the title. ... ...

DemolitionRed 30-10-2015 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8255893)
When have petty considerations like that ever bothered them? Take this recent tax credits nonsense, for instance. "Hmph! Blocked by the House of Lords? Well... we must immediately look into changing the rules so that that can't happen again!"

Not to mention their Gerrymandering attempts.
Aye, this lot are such a bloody worry!

smudgie 30-10-2015 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8255904)
Yeah it's only sites with ISIS in the title. ... ...
Oooops, we better watch our P's and Q's then.:joker:

Denver 30-10-2015 12:10 PM
Not David Cameron being found out for watching Pig head porn?

Northern Monkey 30-10-2015 12:19 PM
This if implemented would more than likely just push more and more people onto the 'dark web' out of protest.

Kizzy 30-10-2015 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8255966)
This if implemented would more than likely just push more and more people onto the 'dark web' out of protest.
To do what, Watch bake off? I doubt this very much.

Northern Monkey 30-10-2015 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8255970)
To do what, Watch bake off? I doubt this very much.
Idk.I've never been on their

Maybe watch 'dark web' shows:laugh:

Can't you get bake off on there?I'm sure you could get almost anything on there.

bots 30-10-2015 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8255966)
This if implemented would more than likely just push more and more people onto the 'dark web' out of protest.
any net access they make via their isp is actually logged already, dark web or not. All this does is allow them access to the data for dubious reasons.

Northern Monkey 30-10-2015 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8255999)
any net access they make via their isp is actually logged already, dark web or not. All this does is allow them access to the data for dubious reasons.
So if the dark web is trackable then what's the point in it?Idk much about tbh other than a documentary i recently watched on Youtube about it.

bots 30-10-2015 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 8256003)
So if the dark web is trackable then what's the point in it?Idk much about tbh other than a documentary i recently watched on Youtube about it.
everything is tracked, its just that laws currently protect users data from all but very specific instances. What they are doing is widening the scope of the reasons for accessing it, and the agencies that can do it.

JoshBB 30-10-2015 12:58 PM
Seriously?? Like I get if there were individuals they were worried about, accessing their browsing histories may be acceptable, but just normal people going on about their day? Bit too 1984 if you ask me.

the truth 30-10-2015 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8255817)
"Those threats remain considerable and they are evolving.

"They include not just terrorism from overseas and home-grown in the UK, but also industrial, military and state espionage.


If that's the case, then why has our ministry of defence been cut by 20 percent and why has this ministry been told to prepare for further reductions of 20 to 40 percent. Why since 2010 are our armed forces being downsized, our military capabilities slashed and our economic interests put way ahead of any international security.

I call bollox on this one.

Big Brother...we are watching you.
fair points

JoshBB 30-10-2015 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8255904)
Yeah it's only sites with ISIS in the title. ... ...
Where did you get this from?

The word 'ISIS' isn't mentioned once in the article lol

the truth 30-10-2015 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Liam- (Post 8255862)
So to make their job of trying to catch terrorists before they do something easier they're going to invade the privacy of everybody with a computer?.. I don't see the logic, it's like some sick thriller film, what happens when they inevitably get hacked? there are a lot of people out there more intelligent that these people will ever be, if they get into this 'system' - I'm using that term very loosely- then they'd have everybody's private information surely? by doing this they'd only be opening themselves up to more trouble, why don't they just focus on what they're trying to do and be do better at it, rather than becoming some sort of other being to make their life easier, it's a stupid idea which hopefully won't come to fruition.
agreed, although I think it would be infinitely worse than this, the abuses would be catastrophic. imagine how politicians would use this against future opponents?

user104658 30-10-2015 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8256023)
Where did you get this from?

The word 'ISIS' isn't mentioned once in the article lol
It is...

arista 30-10-2015 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8256009)
Seriously?? Like I get if there were individuals they were worried about, accessing their browsing histories may be acceptable, but just normal people going on about their day? Bit too 1984 if you ask me.

No its not
you have done nothing wrong

It that Terrorist cell down the road they want

Cherie 30-10-2015 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 8256009)
Seriously?? Like I get if there were individuals they were worried about, accessing their browsing histories may be acceptable, but just normal people going on about their day? Bit too 1984 if you ask me.
What is the definition of a normal person though, if you look any recent terrorist atrocities a common theme is ..no one realised, they were the best son, dad, husband, wife, seemed very normal etc etc

user104658 30-10-2015 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8255999)
any net access they make via their isp is actually logged already, dark web or not. All this does is allow them access to the data for dubious reasons.
This is incorrect, if you are accessing the darkweb properly (via a VPN or other method of encryption) then your ISP can't see what you're doing, other than that you're sending and receiving encrypted information, which could potentially "flag" you I guess. They can't actually see what you've been looking at or where you've been browsing (dark web OR normal) unless they've got someone very skilled actively monitoring you personally.

Northern Monkey 30-10-2015 01:30 PM
Like i said in another thread.I think we have to be very careful about the amount of power we afford the government and secret services.Things like this are never reversed,Once it's in...It's in for good.Even if we trust those in power at the moment who's to say we will trust whoever replaces them twenty or thirty years down the line.Where is the limit to the powers that we grant to these people?This will not be the end.A line has to be drawn somewhere.How long before our phones,laptops and tablets are projecting live feed of our day to day movements.That truly will be Big Brother in real life.It may seem far fetched but it's not a giant leap from where we are today,Infact these things are currently very possible technologically.

Northern Monkey 30-10-2015 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8256040)
This is incorrect, if you are accessing the darkweb properly (via a VPN or other method of encryption) then your ISP can't see what you're doing, other than that you're sending and receiving encrypted information, which could potentially "flag" you I guess. They can't actually see what you've been looking at or where you've been browsing (dark web OR normal) unless they've got someone very skilled actively monitoring you personally.
That's what i thought too.

kirklancaster 30-10-2015 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 8255970)
To do what, Watch bake off? I doubt this very much.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

kirklancaster 30-10-2015 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8256040)
This is incorrect, if you are accessing the darkweb properly (via a VPN or other method of encryption) then your ISP can't see what you're doing, other than that you're sending and receiving encrypted information, which could potentially "flag" you I guess. They can't actually see what you've been looking at or where you've been browsing (dark web OR normal) unless they've got someone very skilled actively monitoring you personally.
To save me Googling - WTF is The Dark Net -- I thought it was something fictional that they tried to snare Darth Vader with. :laugh:

bots 30-10-2015 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8256040)
This is incorrect, if you are accessing the darkweb properly (via a VPN or other method of encryption) then your ISP can't see what you're doing, other than that you're sending and receiving encrypted information, which could potentially "flag" you I guess. They can't actually see what you've been looking at or where you've been browsing (dark web OR normal) unless they've got someone very skilled actively monitoring you personally.
i beg to differ. I stand by my original comment

user104658 30-10-2015 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 8256056)
i beg to differ. I stand by my original comment
OK continue to be misinformed.

bots 30-10-2015 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 8256062)
OK continue to be misinformed.
I have experience in that field, so i am not misinformed.


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