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Ammi 23-11-2015 02:37 PM

..(I haven't got huge cat knowledge because I've never owned one...)...but I thought that many cats prefer to be indoors because they're just not very curious or like to wander...I'm sure that Sooty's cat..Fat Charlie, was an indoor cat because he was lazy and didn't like to go out at all...although animals have instincts, as humans also have...they're all individuals as well, my OH's mum once had a dog who hated walks and tried everything to avoid them...

Ninastar 23-11-2015 02:38 PM

depends the size of your house really. If you can make special accommodations for your cat then that's brilliant :love: but normally, I'm really against people keeping their cats indoors all the time. my dads wife has 3 indoor cats and they legit all have mental issues.

Ammi 23-11-2015 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaos (Post 8308839)
depends the size of your house really. If you can make special accommodations for your cat then that's brilliant :love: but normally, I'm really against people keeping their cats indoors all the time. my dads wife has 3 indoor cats and they legit all have mental issues.

..is that not because they have to live with her...(this is his present wife/the anti wife..?..)...it sounds like she could give anyone or anything, mental issues...

user104658 23-11-2015 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8308821)
Nah, we can work it out :laugh:

Probably, it's only really in general musing that I think it's unfair to keep cats as indoor pets. Thankfully, in practice, I only have mediocre regard for animal welfare. Whew! Crisis averted.

Ninastar 23-11-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8308845)
..is that not because they have to live with her...(this is his present wife/the anti wife..?..)...it sounds like she could give anyone or anything, mental issues...

lmao, probs tbh...

Niamh. 23-11-2015 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaos (Post 8308839)
depends the size of your house really. If you can make special accommodations for your cat then that's brilliant :love: but normally, I'm really against people keeping their cats indoors all the time. my dads wife has 3 indoor cats and they legit all have mental issues.

This is Eddies "Catio" :laugh: I'm just afraid something would happen to him if i just let him wander, he's not very street wise and he trusts everyone and everything


Ninastar 23-11-2015 02:53 PM

thats incredible! I kinda I wish I had one for Meowzie. I think she probably gets her brains from me. She's so thick its unreal. last night at like 2am, my mum shouted on me because Meowzie had gotten herself stuck on the roof (which was also covered in Ice...)

eventually she jumped down, but still, I was so scared. Shes just got no sense at all

Niamh. 23-11-2015 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaos (Post 8308862)
thats incredible! I kinda I wish I had one for Meowzie. I think she probably gets her brains from me. She's so thick its unreal. last night at like 2am, my mum shouted on me because Meowzie had gotten herself stuck on the roof (which was also covered in Ice...)

eventually she jumped down, but still, I was so scared. Shes just got no sense at all

N'awww that's such a cute name btw :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 23-11-2015 03:59 PM

Short answer is yes

No cat or dog shoukd be stuck inside without a very good reason

arista 23-11-2015 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8308857)
This is Eddies "Catio" :laugh: I'm just afraid something would happen to him if i just let him wander, he's not very street wise and he trusts everyone and everything



Bless him
he just wants to Kill a Bird
I can see it in his Eyes

Lostie! 23-11-2015 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8308949)
Short answer is yes

No cat or dog shoukd be stuck inside without a very good reason

The very term "Indoor Cat" usually refers specifically to cats who want to be indoors. In those cases (yes, they exist), it's a lot more cruel and selfish to shove them outside when they don't wish to be there.

MTVN 23-11-2015 04:07 PM

Our neighbours have some strange breed of cat which should always be indoors for some reason, can't remember the name of it now. We've never kept ours indoors although they prefer to be in the day because they're quite old now and just sleep all the time. We put them out at night though cos otherwise they'd be annoying prowling the house all night waking us up. By 'out' I mean the back passageway where they do have a bed if they wanted to stay in, think they tend to spend most of the night outside though

kirklancaster 23-11-2015 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lostie! (Post 8308955)
The very term "Indoor Cat" usually refers specifically to cats who want to be indoors. In those cases (yes, they exist), it's a lot more cruel and selfish to shove them outside when they don't wish to be there.

So true Lostie. I have not kept a cat for years but had cats for many years before that, and two of mine were 'indoor' breeds who just could not survive outside.

Ninastar 23-11-2015 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8308865)
N'awww that's such a cute name btw :laugh:

lmao thank you. i think you're the only one ever to say that hahaha

-glares at shaun-

King Gizzard 23-11-2015 06:32 PM

#TeamMeowzie

Z 23-11-2015 06:33 PM

The mad girl I work with adopted a cat from a couple who are expecting a baby, it's an indoor cat but they lived on some big property apparently whereas this girl lives in a tiny council flat... anyway, first weekend of having the cat she accidentally left a window open and the cat fell out/jumped out the window and damaged its ligaments (lives on the third floor I think she said)... and she has the cheek to try and dump the bill on the cat's previous owners! Eh no, your fault you were stupid enough to leave a window open. Asshole. Cats belong outside and they should at least have the option to go out if they want to... otherwise it's no different than keeping them in a zoo.

King Gizzard 23-11-2015 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8308865)
N'awww that's such a cute name btw :laugh:

Said no one ever!!!

Vicky. 23-11-2015 06:37 PM

Yes, I find it so cruel. My mother in law has a cat that has only ever been outside once, when it escaped. She is constantly trying to get out whenever the door is open and I swear she looks so sad when the suns out and shes stuck indoors :(

Drew. 23-11-2015 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 8308967)
Our neighbours have some strange breed of cat which should always be indoors for some reason, can't remember the name of it now. We've never kept ours indoors although they prefer to be in the day because they're quite old now and just sleep all the time. We put them out at night though cos otherwise they'd be annoying prowling the house all night waking us up. By 'out' I mean the back passageway where they do have a bed if they wanted to stay in, think they tend to spend most of the night outside though

We've got an elderly woman that lives next door on her own and she keeps her cat inside but its a pedigree cat, think it might be a Persian one and they are pretty expensive and aren't good with the outdoors life.

DemolitionRed 23-11-2015 07:01 PM

We inherited 2 Bengal brothers who were house cats. After six months and much destruction...Bengals are notorious for this, we sold our house and decided to go off and spend our summer out in the sticks in a North American Indian teepee. The cats were in seventh heaven and although they never roamed far, they lived under the stars with us and had what I would call, a proper cat life. When we moved back into suburbia, there was no way these two lads were going to accept the confines of four walls and so we did, cautiously let them out after rush-hour in the evening for about four hours.

Within two weeks Jaz came back with an injured front leg. We will never know what happened but he just lost complete feeling in that leg and it had to be amputated. Jaz no longer wanted to go out and even if he'd wanted to we probably would of prevented it. Only a few months later, his brother Boe got into a cat fight with a tom cat and ended up so badly injured that it was touch and go for a while. His personality changed and he wouldn't even go near the door or sit looking out of the window for about a year.

I think it very much depends on what breed of cat you own. If its an expensive pedigree and overly friendly, chances of it getting stolen are really high. Siamese are meant to make great house cats because they are more like dogs in nature but I'd advise buying a Bengal as a house cat because they will drive you nuts!

Jordan. 23-11-2015 07:06 PM

I wanted my cat to be an indoor cat but he was so desperate to get out I enventually allowed it. I think it depends on the cat itself whether it's cruel/selfish. If they're happy to be indoors and not trying to get out at every oppurtunity I don't see the problem.

Ninastar 23-11-2015 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 8309514)
We inherited 2 Bengal brothers who were house cats. After six months and much destruction...Bengals are notorious for this, we sold our house and decided to go off and spend our summer out in the sticks in a North American Indian teepee. The cats were in seventh heaven and although they never roamed far, they lived under the stars with us and had what I would call, a proper cat life. When we moved back into suburbia, there was no way these two lads were going to accept the confines of four walls and so we did, cautiously let them out after rush-hour in the evening for about four hours.

Within two weeks Jaz came back with an injured front leg. We will never know what happened but he just lost complete feeling in that leg and it had to be amputated. Jaz no longer wanted to go out and even if he'd wanted to we probably would of prevented it. Only a few months later, his brother Boe got into a cat fight with a tom cat and ended up so badly injured that it was touch and go for a while. His personality changed and he wouldn't even go near the door or sit looking out of the window for about a year.

I think it very much depends on what breed of cat you own. If its an expensive pedigree and overly friendly, chances of it getting stolen are really high. Siamese are meant to make great house cats because they are more like dogs in nature but I'd advise buying a Bengal as a house cat because they will drive you nuts!

Bengals and other cats like Ragdoll cats are often targeted by humans because they are such a rare breed. If I owned any of those cats, I wouldn't let them outside either. Sorry to hear your cats went through so much :( sometimes some cats just arent meant for the outside

Shaun 23-11-2015 07:07 PM

(Basically no)

But we let all of ours out for at least 60% of the day anyway, unless it's getting this kind of weather when we'll keep them in most of the morning too. (Usually keep them in all night and then for a couple of hours in the early afternoon.)

Jessica. 23-11-2015 07:11 PM

We've had cats all my life, some indoor and some outdoor, you can usually tell early if they are wise enough. We had a cat called socks who was not intelligent at all, we always had outdoor cats before her, she escaped twice and got stuck in a tree each time, overnight in the rain. We tried harder to keep her in after that because we knew it didn't suit her. She got out again after she had turned a year old and got herself run over and died. :( We knew it wasn't right for her to be out and that confirmed it. I still miss her all the time, her death really had a bad effect on me. :sad:

MB. 23-11-2015 07:13 PM

Well if they live in a flat on the 10th floor then no


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