People want the show to go back to basics yet want VTS? :think:

Yeah, I've raised this point myself in the past. The C4 series are generally much higher regarded than those on C5, but VTE is apparently inferior. I don't really get that

I don't think Arron would've been evicted over somebody who'd threatened sexual assault and punching a woman in the face (both of which received thousands of complaints from viewers) just a week prior, regardless if Arron had an awful edit that week (I wouldn't know, I haven't seen it since it aired 4 years ago). But I think Conor was toast from then on had it been a VTE.

I'd like to think so because if he survived that ABCD eviction had it been a VTE, I'd actually be genuinely concerned about the GBP.

But then again it was only two years later where Matthew was evicted over Ash (who'd been a prick the past 2 weeks (not that his behavior is in any way comparable with Conor's)) in a VTE, so I have a feeling you may be right :worry:

I'd have VTE over VTS any day, it's what makes the show different to any other Reality TV programmes that use a public vote

It's a pet peeve of mine when people say this, I really can't stand it :laugh:

Like I said, there's been 14 series of VTE, of course there's gonna be some amazing seasons and some awful seasons. You can be quick to say "BB6 was amazing, look at BB5, BB7 was awesome" etc. Are y'all forgetting BB2? BB4? Series that were practically ruined when all the big characters were evicted early.

When people say "back to basics" they refer to less twists, less manipulation etc. Also I don't understand why "it's tradition!!!!" is a valid argument for VTE :shrug:

BBUK was promoted on the slogan "Who Goes You Decide" changing that slogan is changing the show in my eyes

No one thought Conor would be saved either due to those complaints. But he was. Arron would've been out regardless I reckon, but hey, that's the beauty of hindsight and value judgements :laugh:

True true

Personally I'd rather watch a show where I really like a few and really hate a few (VTS) rather than have a series where I feel indifferent to everyone left in because all the 'dicks' have been evicted as well as all my favourites.

Meh idk why I'm arguing so strongly about it anyway, nothing I say will change anyone's opinion :laugh:

A BB16 tea?

Thinking about all the big characters we lost in bb16, Adjoa, the twins, Harriet, Sarah, Jade, Marc...) makes me want vote to save for every single series we need the big characters!

I think VTE is better. I mean yes VTS does sometimes save amazing HMs like Deana but it also has some terrible results. For example if CBB15 was VTE then Katie H and Perez would have been evicted early and the series wouldn't have become all about their 'feud' which (at least for me) ruined the series. Plus imagine if BB16 was VTS then an asshole like Marc would have been crowned the winner :yuk:

I think for me at least it feels a bit more like BB when someone is voted off rather than voted to stay in (this is probably just a personal thing) and we have had amazing HMs like Gina and Ashleigh survive multiple evictions with VTE when in practice they should have been evicted

oh please, half of those BIG CHARACTERS were awful, and the whole notion that we need big characters is kinda ruinous to the show since it encourages people to be unnecessarily loud assholes for the purpose of generating forced conflict.

The celebs know what voting is being used and if they know its vote to SAVE, they just radar dive their way to the final. If the knew it was VTE, they would do something instead of risking being ladled useless and we get a show.

The shows ethos is built around the public having control on who stays and who goes, not who the producers want to stay.

WHY CANT THEY OPEN 2 VOTING SYSTEMS. If you want to evict someone, you phone one number, if you want to save them you ring another. Might sound confusing, but it would catch on and make them more money. Why wont they do that, easy, they want to have control of the way the show works which makes it scripted. BB or CBB is not supposed to be a scripted show with designed storylines. Its a social experiment that we the viewer get involved in.

"will pander to the likes of our Jeremy Kyle type viewers."


How Nice

Stop cherry picking my posts, this is the way arguments start. Free speech is allowed and JK comes in for loads of criticism on here so why single me out, it was a parallel comparison.

Sorry G.O.B


I would say its at a Higher level
More Thigh and up top

I prefer vote to save, and it will be for CBB,I doubt they would get celebrities going in to be voted to be evicted.
Not being saved sounds a bit better it seems.

Please translate or is this an insult I am not supposed to understand. The bit about Thigh and up top is misleading.

This is an excellent idea :clap1:

VTE for me everytime, fairest way of voting

Ass and Tits



No need to insult you G.O.B

T.O.S.S.R

I agree, it is in the programmes ethos, WHO STAYS, YOU DECIDE. Not pay your money and we decide.