I agree with that not a John fan but I honestly think he thought he was nominating Darren and Angie for reasons that the HMs and public would consider noble it backfired on him massively. I didn't like the way he asked Tiff to leave though :nono:

If I agree with you we'll both be wrong,:smug: John did his face to face what was not honest with it? Gemma on the other hand has been lying about John to other housemates which fits the sly tag,but certainly not the honest one

She clocked Winston straight to his face hun

No he shouldn't have done that Cherie but really from some comments on here you'de think he'de killed a puppy,I put that down to anger at the time and crossed wires with some of the other housemates,but as a person I would much prefer John to the snake that is Gemma .

Gemma bitches yes but she isn't afraid to say it to their faces either :) John plays this innocent guy who wants to look good for the camera, Now the viewers finally saw his true colours :clap1:

John can't moan at Gemma betraying him when he nominated his friend Darren, the reason for Darren was pathetic too.

You just don't get it do you?:shrug: plus when has she said anything to Johns face?

I do get it actually, just like everyone else does... he just showed he is also a hypocrite as well as a fake bully. She told winston things to his face and when the time comes she will with John.. did you watch towie? she bitches yes i said that but she tells people to their faces as well... she doesn't hold back like Denise did.

Not true. I think this was his downfall. He was speaking for people that clearly didn't want Tiff to leave.

Nancy didn't know what the **** had gone on and comforted Tiff. Christopher did the same and tried to smooth things over with some by calling a meeting. Megan didn't want her gone and neither did Jeremy, both were shown to say this on the highlights. Gemma didn't want her gone either and gave Tiff tips on how to score brownie points with those that don't like her.

Saying everyone wanted her gone was spiteful and untrue.

As if I'de watch Towie :joker::joker: please give me some credit,You can call John all the names you like it will not change the fact Gemma is a lying snake who thinks slagging John off (or anyone else for that matter) will win her votes and yes it will , for her die hard fans but not with the ordinary public we can hear her lies and make our own minds up.

Totally agree with this, I am dislikng Gemma more and more.

Exactly:cheer2: :wavey:

I can't understand the Gemma support especially from Tiffany supporters :nono: I fully believe if the crowd were chanting Tiffany she would have nominated her

Gemma admits tonight that she is giving the public the drama they want.
She is nosey and gets involved with everybody's business...she can't help herself.
However upfront and honest she is...I would not trust her. I think she is as manipulative of situations as much as John is in manipulating people.

They are both as bad as each other...

I don't like it when someone has bigger gums than teeth

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/sites...?itok=WDBC6eYs

:laugh: reminds me of that crack on Geena Davis from Stewie on Family Guy. when she smiles you see too much gum. not a good tooth to gum ratio.

John is smarter than they are, more intelligent .....he will run circles around Gemma and her Trashy crew

You should never poke fun at somebody for things in their appearance that they can't change.....its the lowest form of being a coward

Try and surprise yourself and think of something more constructive and intelligent to say ...

Yeah cos Gemma and Megan his main critics have never been hypocritical ?

He was trying to save Darren from the stresses of BB to cut his smoking and trying to avoid the knock on effect of him maybe starting drinking again to substitute for stopping smoking again.That's all John was up to when he stupidly didn't realise the effects that feeling betrayed by a mate if Darren had got evicted would have on him too.

Why noone in crowd or on CBBBOTS couldn't see that Gemma and Megan are faking their anger and rants

in order to try and get their followers to target John cos they see him as their main opponent

is beyond me ?

Good for Gemma and I'm not a fan of hers he wants putting up good for her.

John is actually the opposite of fake....he says it how he sees it and he says it to the persons face...if the Tiffany fans were honest with themselves they would see that he is very like her in that way....he is one of the few house mates who stands up for what he believes and doesn't care what people think....Tiffany knows she was wrong on Monday and I doubt very much if she resents John because of it