Given that they've been divorced for coming up to 40 years...

Gemma is a big fat pig and John has disgusting teeth

This is just hate mail and trolling......I'm amazed you don't get booted off......there is no maturity or intelligence in your abuse

Gemma is righteous and entertaining

A tad problematic

John probably assumed that everyone would want Tiffany out....at the very least until she regained some sanity.....it was necessary just like it was with Megan, but for some reason John was the only one strong enough to confront Tiffany.....any of the others who chose not to get involved were cowards and if someone had ended up injured because of the mad cow then it would not have been Johns fault but the fault of big brother and all the sheep in that house .....Megan was restrained...Tiffany wasn't.... Megan was removed...Tiffany wasn't ....They are giving Tiffany special treatment and it discrimination in her favour .....John was absolutely right to defend and protect Angie from that aggressive bitch...he promised her he would and he stuck to his promise....a good guy

I so shouldn't have laughed at your post LT, but I couldn't help it :laugh:

I'm interested to find out what examples people have of John being manipulative other than just an inherent feeling of distrust. I just haven't seen anything. What I do understand is John has an incredibly strong and centred character that many of the British public just cannot relate to in themselves. It's no coincidence its the most unstable people in there who have "cottoned on" to Johns "game playing". Considering the smartest and more stable ones can't seem to see it. There's your clue. Its just an illusion. And seeing as the public are TOWIE obsessed. Its not surprising they're shouting "get John out". Sad really.

THIS. THIS. THIS. I detest her.

You know I had an idea Gemma would be sneaky, but I was skitting at her antics with Jonathan and wanted her to win!

But as soon as the week ended and Jonathan fled the nest, her true colours came out!

Regardless of whether any of us like her or not, she is 100% sneakier than John and ALOT worse. She's also alot more obvious!!!

Completely agree, what is the point in being nasty like that? It's not funny and really doesn't achieve anything???

She is absolutely now for me, miles worse than John is or ever was.

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Are you even old enough for this forum, or to be watching BB?

That's just a cheap and childish way of saying you don't like them instead of critiquing their actions and characters.

Gemma is a hundred times worse. I don't care for John, but at least he is a talented actor, whereas Gemma is just a waste of space. John tries to be in control because probably that's the type of personality he is, whereas Gemma says and does things just to stir things up and cause friction.
I really really hate the type that has no willpower, is stupid,selfish and greedy and Gemma is all of those things.

..as bad as each other I would say, in terms of their character..I think that the thing is with those two, that they've both recognised the gameplay in each other so are clashing to be 'top dog'..

Great post....very accurate

At this point yes, she is so much worse.

:clap1::clap1: Great post Jenny,but I do like John,I can't see he has done anything that bad tbh.

For that to be true she'd have to be as hard faced as you and I really don't think she is ...how do you know what she's feeling or going through ?