Oh for goodness sake, twist my words yet again why don't you!

The police don't have to steal anything to be accused of theft and there are some people who would accuse their own mother of theft if they think they're going to benefit from it.

The police could be making themselves vulnerable to false accusations against them.

What
about a Nasty Stranger Driver near your road LT?

i am well away from the main road and down a long unmade drive

i think it looks too scary for the average nasty person

and that I could have a gun or an axe or other weapons (its a yes to all)

:suspect:

Or if Kirk tracks him down :worry:

The police do a wondeful job of protecting us and this only makes me appreciate them even more. Well done to them i say! :clap1:

How Nice

If the house is unlocked they aren't breaking in it's trespass.

It's trespassing, whether they are police are not. They need to be reprimanded because this is technically illegal, but I don't think they should be arrested.

Trespass isn't criminal it's civil, they are still being dicks is there nothing better for the police to do then wave fingers at people?
Thought we were wanting to move away from a nanny state? Then why are the police adopting these humiliating tactics, and is it not a data protection issue for them to post images of your property online?

Would it be trespass if a concerned neighbour called them your house because they heard screams and they let themselves on finding the door unlocked :think:

It's getting to the point now where victims lying in their homes will have to sign a disclaimer (if they are alive) before the police set foot inside :laugh: when did we get so precious :umm2:

Obviously not that would be a response to an emergency Cherie haha!

I can see their point of doing it but I don't think it's appropriate to upload pictures to social media

Been thinking about this, how would it work if the house had a dog...and the dog bit the intruder. The dog doesn't know its the good guys, and the dog would not bite in any other situation than defending its home (to get rid of the 'dog shouldn't be vicious stuff that would usually reply to this...'). All the dog knows is that this person is not meant to be in the house when its parents aren't home...

Hey, my thoughts entirely.

Good point.

A slippery slope to police officers being thought of by themselves OR by others as being "above the law", which they are not. Anyone who thinks this is a joke is terrifying to me. Small exceptions lead to bigger exceptions.

This IS in the "police manual of being a copper". They can't enter a private residence without a warrant, unless they believe that someone is in (actual, current) danger of being harmed or they believe that an intrusion is already in progress.

Warrants exist for a reason. The rules governing police conduct exist for a reason. They are laid out quite clearly, for a reason. Bending them to make some minor throwaway point in a massive mistake. Whatever their intentions - which I am sure were indeed good ones - it leads to unpredictability and mistrust.

This post is so apt on a Big Brother forum. :joker:

Just a thought.

If they found someone's door unlocked, and then entered, and then found evidence of something like a joint having been smoked, or some coke remnants, where would either party stand?

There's a conundrum, they'd have to leave it all and go apply for a warrant is my guess.

But doesn't a warrant have to be based on reasonable grounds of suspicion? And if those grounds were based upon a trespass, which would prevail in the face of a "crime"

One small step

Is this how Gillian McKeith got in then

I don't even think they would risk the bad press investigating, unless a few months later they had an 'anonymous tip off'...

Couldn't use it in court and couldn't apply for a warrant using the real reason; which would inevitably lead to incidences of warrants being obtained under false pretences. They're also at risk of being accused of planting the evidence the first time they entered without a warrant if, for example, the occupant had cameras recording their entrance.

More reasons for sticking to the rules.

What about all those nervous old biddies that hear someone trying their locked doors..enough to give them a heart attack.