Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8471511)

That's my, tiresome, point....Gemma hasn't said hardly anything to Steph compared to Dani....that's the difference, Dani has said it up front and to Steph, Gemma has said loads more but always to the others and behind Stephs back....the reason Gemmas name features in so many peoples posts about other housemates is because Gemma is always in the epi centre of all the trouble in the house ...mostly as a smiling assassin who, as chuff just pointed out, loads the gun then sits back and watches her minions fire the f-cker
It's impossible for me to defend Steph and NOT bring Gemma into the discussion because Gemma is the one who is instigating each and every attack that's taking place against Steph....but she does it in a way that fools others into thinking she's not involved....

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8471511)

That's my, tiresome, point....Gemma hasn't said hardly anything to Steph compared to Dani....that's the difference, Dani has said it up front and to Steph, Gemma has said loads more but always to the others and behind Stephs back....the reason Gemmas name features in so many peoples posts about other housemates is because Gemma is always in the epi centre of all the trouble in the house ...mostly as a smiling assassin who, as chuff just pointed out, loads the gun then sits back and watches her minions fire the f-cker
It's impossible for me to defend Steph and NOT bring Gemma into the discussion because Gemma is the one who is instigating each and every attack that's taking place against Steph....but she does it in a way that fools others into thinking she's not involved....

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8471512)

All true ,John gets labelled the house back stabber but its not him,its Gemma the smiling assassin

Originally Posted by jet (Post 8471502)

That's John's role and he loves it. He wouldn't be happy to hear that Gemma is getting the credit. :nono:

Originally Posted by Tarryn (Post 8471522)

I just don't know how anyone can defend Steph.
She is vile. A spoilt little girl who needs everybody to baby her.
Jeremy is not her potential boyfriend but he is now her carer.
She would have happily let Jeremy end his time in BB & walk out with her last night without a second thought for him.
She only cares about herself. She is one of the most selfish people I think I have ever seen.
Danniella was right to tell her what she thought of her. It must be so draining having to put up with a 22 year old girl with the mentality of a toddler.
I don't think though that Danniella is doing it out of love for Stephanie I just think she is trying to sugar-coat her hatred of her.

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8471511)

That's my, tiresome, point....Gemma hasn't said hardly anything to Steph compared to Dani....that's the difference, Dani has said it up front and to Steph, Gemma has said loads more but always to the others and behind Stephs back....the reason Gemmas name features in so many peoples posts about other housemates is because Gemma is always in the epi centre of all the trouble in the house ...mostly as a smiling assassin who, as chuff just pointed out, loads the gun then sits back and watches her minions fire the f-cker
It's impossible for me to defend Steph and NOT bring Gemma into the discussion because Gemma is the one who is instigating each and every attack that's taking place against Steph....but she does it in a way that fools others into thinking she's not involved....

Originally Posted by jet (Post 8471537)

Funny he is named as the house **** stirrer on BoTS, even a friend of his said it with a laugh. And Gillian said it too.He even gave his **** a stir before handing it back to her. :hehe:
All that doesn't come out of nowhere. But I guess they are all wrong and you're right. :laugh:

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8471541)

Another assumption, fantasy, whatever, that you KNOW Steph would let Jeremy end his time in the house to support her...you know no such thing at all....just like the woman who said the same thing on bbots doesn't know either....

Steph didn't say that, Jeremy did....and if there's one thing I'm certain of, if Jeremy does decide to leave with her, neither Steph, the others or a herd of wild horses would stop him......he is no ones mug....
For all we know, or you know, the reason Steph stayed could be BECAUSE Jeremy said he would leave with her.....how do you know how all that panned out, we only saw a few minutes of it.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8471545)

Right, so stupid Gillian said it so that makes it a fact ....seriously ?

Originally Posted by Tarryn (Post 8471547)

Most of these threads are assumptions as we don't get to watch 24 hours a day.
I did not see Steph once try to stop Jeremy from leaving with her.
Nice try at an argument though, keep trying..............

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8471512)

All true ,John gets labelled the house back stabber but its not him,its Gemma the smiling assassin

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8471554)

Chuff, try and steer away from John if you can, cause this thread is for Steph and people will divert the attention of positive support for Steph by focusing on another house mate ....it's the way they play ....this thread will very quickly no longer be about Streph but instead will be a negative thread about John....they're clever....hope you don't mind me asking

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8471545)

Right, so stupid Gillian said it so that makes it a fact ....seriously ?

Originally Posted by Tarryn (Post 8471547)

Most of these threads are assumptions as we don't get to watch 24 hours a day.
I did not see Steph once try to stop Jeremy from leaving with her.
Nice try at an argument though, keep trying..............

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 8471557)

Not in the slightest my lovely xx Steph has been treat disgustingly in the house and on here

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 8471562)

Steph set herself up last night. She instigated the whole argument by telling the other housemates the house is boring...they were boring and that she was giving all the entertainment. Considering her 'entertainment' has meant the housemates have had to endure her tears and guilt and constant hypocrisy and let the situation dominate the house...the fact the other housemates have constantly offered words of advice only for her to ignore them.
Her comments were a smack in the teeth and that's why it kicked off.

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8471561)

Most of these threads aren't assumptions at all....most people use real facts to support what they say ....you have no facts to support what you said about Steph and Jeremy leaving the house ...

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 8471562)

Steph set herself up last night. She instigated the whole argument by telling the other housemates the house is boring...they were boring and that she was giving all the entertainment. Considering her 'entertainment' has meant the housemates have had to endure her tears and guilt and constant hypocrisy and let the situation dominate the house...the fact the other housemates have constantly offered words of advice only for her to ignore them.
Her comments were a smack in the teeth and that's why it kicked off.

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8471574)

They were boring....they were all sat in the kitchen festering away, like mysery itself ....they felt guilty because they had swerved being able to be nominated and they knew that was totally wrong and that the others would resent how unfair it was. When actually, Steph just laughed it off and started dancing around to annoy them...I would have done the same thing .

And you are wrong about Steph saying "she has given all the entertainment" , that is Gemmas line....Steph would never be that arrogant, Steph said " she's given more entertainment then big brother could have hoped for " and she is absolutely correct, she has.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 8471531)

If you know so much about this, give the details of how Gemma instigated each and every attack. Just saying it without the evidence doesn't mean its true.
You could start with last night and work your way back...

Originally Posted by jet (Post 8471531)

If you know so much about this, give the details of how Gemma instigated each and every attack. Just saying it without the evidence doesn't mean its true.
You could start with last night and work your way back...

Originally Posted by hot2go (Post 8471593)

Really I am not trying to be unfriendly but I am really not gonna justify my views on that old cows bad behaviour again....if you want to know the tsunami of proof that's flooded this forum about Gemma Collins appalling personality them I'm afraid you're gonna have to trawl through all the old posts.....it's all there....it's all true....and it's shocking