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Pete. 02-02-2016 04:55 PM

Mad how New York from Flavor of Love will be the only black female to leave relatively liked

Raph 02-02-2016 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hayden (Post 8484205)
The only time a black woman has won a BB anywhere ever is in BB Africa, and even then there are only a few female winners. Says it all really.

Let's hope Tiffany can be the second black girl to ever make the top 2 after Legend Danielle Reyes :love:

This makes me sad :( Come on Tiff!

Ant. 02-02-2016 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8484051)
I suppose part of the problem as well is that (going by the British BB anyway) you might only have one black HM per season (male or female)

Give them some credit, they've been incredible diverse having two black housemates this series

wendywillow 02-02-2016 08:19 PM

Asian male winners - 0/63

well, how many have we had really? I can think of maybe 2 in the history of usbb

Macie Lightfoot 02-02-2016 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete. (Post 8484230)
Danielle was the real winner though

was she though she got destroyed in the end

susie q 02-02-2016 09:12 PM

Personally I dont take the programme that seriously, it stopped being a social experiment
several years ago. Having said that I did get a bit fed up with the ageist comments on here that surrounded Angie. Ordinary bb has never had an older winner, and only has the token older housemate. CBB has only had a male older people win, (Jim&Gary) But this year we have had suggestions that no-one over the age of 60 should be allowed to take part. In spite of all the implied racism in these posts I have never seen anyone suggest that black people should not be allowed to enter,(It would be wrong if they did) but its ok to say that older people should be banned. Whilst Im on the subject of bigotry, where are all the disabled housemates. The big brother really should make more effort to reflect all members of society, and we as viewers should demand that they do. Thats my rant of the day.

lostalex 03-02-2016 07:33 AM

I think you should count disabled people, gay people, and transgender people as POC because they are also discriminated against small minorities.

Cherie 03-02-2016 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by susie q (Post 8485704)
Personally I dont take the programme that seriously, it stopped being a social experiment
several years ago. Having said that I did get a bit fed up with the ageist comments on here that surrounded Angie. Ordinary bb has never had an older winner, and only has the token older housemate. CBB has only had a male older people win, (Jim&Gary) But this year we have had suggestions that no-one over the age of 60 should be allowed to take part. In spite of all the implied racism in these posts I have never seen anyone suggest that black people should not be allowed to enter,(It would be wrong if they did) but its ok to say that older people should be banned. Whilst Im on the subject of bigotry, where are all the disabled housemates. The big brother really should make more effort to reflect all members of society, and we as viewers should demand that they do. Thats my rant of the day.


Great post Susie

Ammi 03-02-2016 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8484167)
Helen was a total cow but she was who she was and no way a fake

what you saw was who she was and she did not hoor her way through the show

...so it's ok to be who you are if who you are is a pretty grim, spiteful, hurtful and mean person because you're being 'natural and real'...but one of the most natural things of (being a bit horny)...and openly showing that (when it hurts no one to show it and pfft to Darren's awkwardness, really..?...and pffft to Scotty T, he's been equally as flirty toward her when it's suited..)...is not ok and 'hooring her way though..)...and obviously a female as well as it would be less 'shocking' for a male housemate, cos ladz ya know...

Marsh. 03-02-2016 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 8484160)
I think it would be the end of BB

why


Because it will mean someone has won by simply being 100% fake and pandering to what the producers think YOU want

drama, sex, stereotypes


I think it would be a disaster for the fight against racism



it would be a terrible terrible disaster for BB

Pissy pants Charlotte won, as did middle aged disaster Denise Welch.

BB is fine. :hee:

Marsh. 03-02-2016 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8486726)
I think you should count disabled people, gay people, and transgender people as POC because they are also discriminated against small minorities.

Disabled, gay and transgender people are all People Of Colour? :suspect:

lostalex 03-02-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 8486754)
Disabled, gay and transgender people are all People Of Colour? :suspect:

yes. we are very colorful people. black isn't even a color, it's the lack of color, optically speaking.

billy123 03-02-2016 09:45 AM

"Social ramifications" :joker: I think you might be slightly over thinking and over estimating a chavvy tv show. #Perspective

Jamie89 03-02-2016 09:55 AM

It's exciting to think that in a couple of days we could see BB history being made, and I can't think of anyone more deserving of that accolade than Tiffany.

Jamie89 03-02-2016 10:00 AM

Also, it won't just mean a lot in terms of the shows past, but it will change the average viewers perception of what a winner is, what 'type' of person we expect a winner to be, which may affect future series in terms of how people vote. For example, people always say things like "a black woman could never win" etc etc, and although I totally get where people are coming from, I do sometimes think that there's a certain amount of 'self-fulfilling prophecy' in that. Because some people, if they genuinely believe it, may be less inclined to spend their money on what they perceive to be a wasted vote. And also, just the fact that a statement like that (which when you think about it is archaic beyond belief) will no longer be able to be made, after 16 years of it being 'valid', is a huge (albeit belated) step forward for the show and its fans.

chuff me dizzy 03-02-2016 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 8486872)
"Social ramifications" :joker: I think you might be slightly over thinking and over estimating a chavvy tv show. #Perspective

:clap1:

sampvt 03-02-2016 10:37 AM

Having a blatant liar, cheat and reality hore winning the show is one pretty bad, but her colour isn't that relevant, its all about who she is, not what colour she is. BB or CBB is supposed to be a social EXPERIMENT, not a reality competition to see who is the biggest scam artist. If this poor excuse for a human being wins, it will make Charlotte pissy pants look Mother Theresa and this Towie producer lot has driven the final nail into CBB and probably BB as well. Hardly a victory

chuff me dizzy 03-02-2016 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 8486953)
Having a blatant liar, cheat and reality hore winning the show is one pretty bad, but her colour isn't that relevant, its all about who she is, not what colour she is. BB or CBB is supposed to be a social EXPERIMENT, not a reality competition to see who is the biggest scam artist. If this poor excuse for a human being wins, it will make Charlotte pissy pants look Mother Theresa and this Towie producer lot has driven the final nail into CBB and probably BB as well. Hardly a victory

:clap1: A win should be on merit, not colour

Cherie 03-02-2016 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 8486872)
"Social ramifications" :joker: I think you might be slightly over thinking and over estimating a chavvy tv show. #Perspective

Indeed

Marsh. 03-02-2016 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostalex (Post 8486843)
black isn't even a color

Kicking the minorities when they're down. :bawling:

reece(: 03-02-2016 05:21 PM

Tiffany winning is a step forward for future winners!

http://i.imgur.com/oIjcEgh.gif

wendywillow 03-02-2016 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sampvt (Post 8486953)
Having a blatant liar, cheat and reality hore winning the show is one pretty bad, but her colour isn't that relevant, its all about who she is, not what colour she is. BB or CBB is supposed to be a social EXPERIMENT, not a reality competition to see who is the biggest scam artist. If this poor excuse for a human being wins, it will make Charlotte pissy pants look Mother Theresa and this Towie producer lot has driven the final nail into CBB and probably BB as well. Hardly a victory

im not sure what half that was about but....social experiment?? its a silly tv show, and has been for years. lets not kid ourselves

Jake. 03-02-2016 08:26 PM

I'm gonna sound really thick but what's POC?

LukeB 03-02-2016 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake. (Post 8488327)
I'm gonna sound really thick but what's POC?

Person of colour

Jake. 03-02-2016 08:30 PM

ohhh okay thanks


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