Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8486681)

..oh btw, just for the OP...didn't he also buy an engagement ring for one of his girlfriends one time and then gave it to another girlfriend instead..?...:laugh:...see, the life he has led, I can't see in any way his 'shock' and awkwardness over Tiffany, that's ridiculous and that's where it has become relevant for me...

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8487046)

He bought an engagement ring for Anna Friel but ran off with Tracy Shaw and gave it to her instead

Originally Posted by hazyjo (Post 8487039)

Drugs change a person. He knows he was a muppet. He has fought his addictions and now seems to be a lovely family man. It happens. My BF would be hung drawn and quartered if people knew what he'd done in the past (and what he'd lost). People change. Sometimes (actually, that's probably more of a 'usually' than 'sometimes') it takes until their 40s. C'est la vie. I hope he does well.

Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 8487129)

To be fair this is only the story according to the press. On the show he told Stephanie they had a wonderful son together but that they had both been with other people when they got together and the relationship was outed buy the press bugging his phone and with what sounds tantamount to blackmail, then it didn't work out. Probably without the press forcoing IIT they may have only had an affair and returned t partners. We aren't flies on the wall in their relationships and its not like the press dont lie. Also people on drugs and alcoholics do act in ways that person never would without the addiction.

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 8486680)

..yeah this really for me as well, he said that he was there/he and Daniella to 'change public perception' but how has he done that, proved that he could go into a the BB house and be faithful to his wife...?..:laugh:...I mean, that was and has been his public perception...his cheating ways as they say and his drug past but he was hardly going to be taking drugs in there either so..(not that I think he still does..)...but his time in there hasn't made sense to me in what he wanted and was hoping to achieve..I think that he's been too afraid of putting a foot wrong, that he just hasn't even put a foot at all with that fear and given nothing at all/I do understand why he has done that though because the last thing that he would want is to get involved in stuff and it possibly go horrible wrong, so that the public thought that he was an idiot...

...the only thing that I would refer to or consider his past with though..(because for me it is relevant..)..is his reactions to Tiffany flirting with him etc...I don't believe someone with his history and experience would be in the slightest bit phased by something like that, so I do think he's 'hammed up' the I've changed so much bit and in doing so, tried to make her look bad...the same with John as well to be fair with it...his oh, I'm soooooooooo soooooooooooooo hurt that you nominated me, cut right through my heart and soul..I think that was very contrived in it's OTT as well and obviously made John look bad..I didn't see it at the time because it was the first reveal of his 'game-plan'..not that I think those parts were pre-thought out in game plan probably, but I think that he's taken full advantage of them..so I guess that he's given us a little something with that but just not very much and certainly not enough to win...who is Darren Day..?.../I have no idea who he is/non the wiser really from his stay in the house....

Originally Posted by bobnot (Post 8485671)

Diligaf.
He has spoken about all that crap in the house its not a secret.
silly post try again.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 8487046)

He bought an engagement ring for Anna Friel but ran off with Tracy Shaw and gave it to her instead

Originally Posted by susie q (Post 8485898)

What a pointless post, everyone knows about his past, he hasnt tried to hide it, and has turned his life around. Also Suzanne Shaw was with someone at the time they met, so shes not that innocent she also sold a lot of stories about it to the papers, no doubt they paid her well.
Sometimes people do just deserve a second chance.

Originally Posted by Rob! (Post 8486663)

He also used to be a drug addict. People change.

Originally Posted by rusticgal (Post 8487599)

He's my winner....:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2: