Flattery will get you anywhere:laugh:

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Yes it would be interesting to see from the Tiffany haters what they think as they're normally quite vocal (I'm not baiting btw, I'm genuinely curious if even her haters would respect her for this)

As am I

I kinda relate given I respect to HMs I hate not sharing their pity stories that don't like (Cristian not mentioning him being deaf being the most recent example that comes to mind - even though it not being comparable in anyway to Tiffany's loss)

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I don't recall him once mentioning his mom.....or mentioning how he put his career on hold to look after...and he only mentioned his dad once and it was a very relevant point in the context of what he was trying to convey at the time...

And Jeremy could have milked his sad past right up to taking the prize, his story is painfully cruel....so to dismiss them both and imply that Tiffany is the only one with integrity because she didn't play that card is wrong....you are wrong.

To defend Tiffany and only Tiffany without ever giving credit to anyone else at any time is such a one sided point of view that I find i can't take it seriously

So?

You can't recall it so it never happened?

Maybe you should only join the discussion when you've watched it and paid attention?

John has spoken about his mother's illness multiple times...

That's a weak reaction...maybe back it up with some examples where he talked about his mother outside of the telephone task...I've watched every episode so I would like to know what I missed

Being fair to Tiffany, she has never played any sympathy card and all of that is to her massive credit in my opinion.

It's my job to update you on events you've missed?

Do you also want me to provide a concise list of everything dumb Gemma said?

I haven't the time.

Thanks for the information, please give examples to constitute your reply cause I gen want to know what I missed....

And Jeremy, am I wrong about him too and therefore this thread IS correct and Tiffany is the only one with heartbreak who didn't exploit it to gain votes ? Please explain cause I would like the correct facts and you seem to have them.

You're absolutely right, it's not your job to update others on what they've missed but it's your place to back up your statements with actual reality if you expect others to take you seriously

As Marsh said go back and check yourself, I remember him mentioning it (as do others) and you don't.

He mentioned it to Darren at one point for sure saying he was doing BB to afford for her care.

Wow have i really just read a thread trying to use other peoples personal tragedies as a point scoring exercise just over a crappy tv show.
Low really low.

It is reality. Hence why we discuss what happened on the show after watching and not having to recap everything from every episode every time we post.

Your lapse in memory is not the thread's problem.

I don't see anyone doing that...the thread was actually created to say how much the OP admired Tiffany for not mentioning personal tragedy...

I dont doubt for a second you dont see it.
Have fun i will leave you to it.

I must have missed it too, lets have some proof of these multiple times she is mentioned:shrug:

So that's a no then

My memory must be failing me if what you say is correct cause I don't recall John talking about his moms illness other than when he had his call from home....never mind, it's obv correct what you say so I'm sure someone will be able to help clarify that for me at some point.

My post saying that it's bollox that Tiffany is the only housemate who should be praised for her integrity over their personal life must be incorrect.

I still wait to be corrected about Jeremy.

Yeah, it must be.

Maybe because its a lie and she knows people would out it as a lie :idc:

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Is there a link to the info,I would be interested in reading that